ICE told to get the eff out

[MNW67]

They didn't let her go, she took off in a direct path towards the man with a gun.

I am constantly trying to break down the events, as would happen in a court room. But you keep muddling them all back together again!

We were discussing what happened just before Renee drove forwards. The agent was circling and videoing. Renee was being super friendly. Then the argument is that wife came and 'escalated' the situation. I just want to know what that means. Are you and MBK saying that before the wife's input they were going to let Renee go but, after the wife started mouthing off, they decided to arrest Renee. If not, what was the escalation.

 

[motorbiking]

Would they arrest my wife for something I said. That seems weird.

If your wife had obstructed them in their duty and you were gobbing off while they were trying to lawfully get her to stop, you'd be arrested.

 

[JohnD]

We saw a couple of very obnoxious lesbians

Interesting to see you think that is relevant to the death penalty.

Pink triangle?

Or black, like last time?

 

[MNW67]

If your wife had obstructed them in their duty and you were gobbing off while they were trying to lawfully get her to stop, you'd be arrested.

You seem to be deliberately swerving there.

I am just after a straightforward answer to the question I have been asking. You said the wife escalated the situation. How did that play out in practice. What did the agents do differently, after the verbals from the wife, that they weren't going to do anyway.

 

[Highway Man]

Interesting to see you think that is relevant to the death penalty.

Pink triangle?

Or black, like last time?

That is what they were, it makes no odds to their sexual orientation but the description is correct. How would you describe them?

 

[Highway Man]

I am constantly trying to break down the events, as would happen in a court room. But you keep muddling them all back together again!

We were discussing what happened just before Renee drove forwards. The agent was circling and videoing. Renee was being super friendly. Then the argument is that wife came and 'escalated' the situation. I just want to know what that means. Are you and MBK saying that before the wife's input they were going to let Renee go but, after the wife started mouthing off, they decided to arrest Renee. If not, what was the escalation.

Super friendly? You gotta be kidding

 

[Highway Man]

I am constantly trying to break down the events, as would happen in a court room. But you keep muddling them all back together again!

We were discussing what happened just before Renee drove forwards. The agent was circling and videoing. Renee was being super friendly. Then the argument is that wife came and 'escalated' the situation. I just want to know what that means. Are you and MBK saying that before the wife's input they were going to let Renee go but, after the wife started mouthing off, they decided to arrest Renee. If not, what was the escalation.

It will never see the light of day in a court room.

 

[motorbiking]

You seem to be deliberately swerving there.

I am just after a straightforward answer to the question I have been asking. You said the wife escalated the situation. How did that play out in practice. What did the agents do differently, after the verbals from the wife, that they weren't going to do anyway.

The swerve was your question. I think you knew your scenario was completely different.

 

[MNW67]

The swerve was your question. I think you knew your scenario was completely different.

I don't think that is true. But even if it was, you should be able to answer a straightforward question. You have said several times that Becca escalated the situation. What effect do you think that had. In particular, what do you think the agents did differently, after the verbals from Becca, that they weren't going to do anyway.

 

[Highway Man]

I don't think that is true. But even if it was, you should be able to answer a straightforward question. You have said several times that Becca escalated the situation. What effect do you think that had. In particular, what do you think the agents did differently, after the verbals from Becca, that they weren't going to do anyway.

You cannot see the issue with the event therefore you are looking at this from completely the wrong angle, you are looking at this as though two sweet ladies were out for a stroll with their dog and mysteriously one of them got shot and killed,

 

[catlad]

Or charged or convicted. Why do you think that might be.

My guess is that he is being protected at the moment by the trump administration, which unfortunately for him won't last forever!

 

[motorbiking]

I don't think that is true. But even if it was,

Would they arrest my wife for something I said. That seems weird.

You can't honestly say you think the entire interaction was based on what they said. There is no comparison.

you should be able to answer a straightforward question. You have said several times that Becca escalated the situation. What effect do you think that had. In particular, what do you think the agents did differently, after the verbals from Becca, that they weren't going to do anyway.

Even here in the UK if you obstruct the police or interfere with their activities you will be stopped. The more you escalate, the more force will be used to stop you.

 

[MNW67]

You cannot see the issue with the event therefore you are looking at this from completely the wrong angle, you are looking at this as though two sweet ladies were out for a stroll with their dog and mysteriously one of them got shot and killed,

I am looking at it completely objectively. Various posters on here, and many people online, are trying to blame Becca. But it is all very vague. I am just trying to be forensic and rigorous, by asking what those making these accusations against Becca believe the agents would have done differently, if Becca hadn't mouthed off. It is becoming very suspicious that nobody seems to want to explain what they actually mean.

 

[MNW67]

Even here in the UK if you obstruct the police or interfere with their activities you will be stopped. The more you escalate, the more force will be used to stop you.

But hopefully they wouldn't ramp up the force against my wife, who is always polite and friendly.

 

[Highway Man]

I am looking at it completely objectively. Various posters on here, and many people online, are trying to blame Becca. But it is all very vague. I am just trying to be forensic and rigorous, by asking what those making these accusations against Becca believe the agents would have done differently, if Becca hadn't mouthed off. It is becoming very suspicious that nobody seems to want to explain what they actually mean.

You have to look at more of a picture of the days events leading up to the event, it wasn't simply a split second thing that happened. You are looking at a split shot of the time line rather than the full time line which makes up the picture