If evolution is true.............

[pred]

So it was big G that made the universe and all its contents, as you say


Darwin had no idea of how complex cells are as he had no way seeing or knowing of the complexity of detail existing on a scanning electron microscopic level.


but and its a big BUT where did god originate from, who was his creator????

 

[joe-90]

mankind has been studying the brain for centuries - and is still clueless as to how it works. However, not knowing how it works doesn't mean it doesn't work. We are still clueless as to how paracetamol works, but we know that it does. Assuming that something is 'magic' just because we don't know how it works is rather primitive thinking.
Einstein believed in God because he had the God gene. He was a mathematician - nothing more.

 

[JohnD]

The theory of evolution has not been proved granted its taught as a fact.

However, it's been very widely accepted as a working theory, because there is so much evidence to support it.

Quite unlike those myths which some religionists teach as facts, like the one about the talking snake and the magic rib-woman.

 

[chapeau]

Gasbanni,

Now I've learned a long time ago not to debate scientific topics with people who don't understand how science works and whose main scientific textbook is the bible, but there is overwhelming evidence that modern animal cells evolved from primitive structures. Your molecular biologist was clearly not a very good one, tell him to google 'Endosymbiotic theory' and then get another job.

 

[AronSearle]

The theory of evolution has not been proved granted its taught as a fact.

Incorrect or a deliberate misrepresentation.

It is taught as a theory, based upon some facts.

People like you just have sour grapes that "intelligent design" is not taught in science classes as an alternative "theory", but even if you believe "god did it", if you understand science (and the full meaning behind the word theory), you should understand "intelligent design" has no place in science class, as it is faith based and not scientific theory.

 

[pred]

Gasbanni,

Now I've learned a long time ago not to debate scientific topics with people who don't understand how science works and whose main scientific textbook is the bible, but there is overwhelming evidence that modern animal cells evolved from primitive structures. Your molecular biologist was clearly not a very good one, tell him to google 'Endosymbiotic theory' and then get another job.

I really should take a leaf out of your book and not stand on the door step arguing with Jehova Witlesses, it's ok for them as they are going to have eternal life on Earth apparently, but me, i'm very fast approaching 60yrs old and dont think i'll see another 60 after that, so based on that fact, in future i shall advise sex and travel and politly slam the door in their face.

 

[Micilin]

Just to echo other posts -

Science is based on putting forward a hypothesis for others to disprove, or publishing your research/experirments for others to review and disprove.

The theory of evolution as put forward by Darwin and refined by others has been subjected to extensive review and research for the past century, but has not been disproved by anyone as a workable hypothesis.

The objections to it are largely based on the premise that 'I can't comprehend how it works - so it must be false' by people who then go on to demonstrate that they don't have a basic grasp of the theory that they are trying to disprove.

(Comments about 'Monkeys evolving into man' are an almost perfect parody of this lack of understanding)

If a creationist could demonstrate first a knowledge of the theory they are trying to disprove then they would be more credible
- sadly I have not encountered one yet.
The argument also relies on straw men whch are set up to knock down.


Also both creationists and evolutionists have to realise that their argument is independent of what happened before the 'Big Bang' /God created the Universe.

To believe that evolution started after god created the universe - I can see how that is tenable. But to deny all the evidence that creatures/organisims evolve ?


The whole debate seems to me to be one sided -

-evolutionists providing evidence to support their theory
- creationists saying they don't believe it

I'd love for a creationist to come up with a reasoned, credible argument based on evidence as I am very interested in the subject - and after all if there is a god it would be nice to get in the good books.

Sadly not come across one yet.

 

[joe-90]

Why did god create dinosaurs? Was he just practising?

 

[ladylola]

Why did god create dinosaurs? Was he just practising?

Why would an omnipotent being have to practise?
Were all the lifeless lumps of rock in space practise attempts too?
Surely not if God is as great as some believe.
Of course he could have just created their fossils to test us

 

[Micilin]

Many creationists believe that


a- the fossils were placed there by a god
b-the existance of fossils of an organism do not prove that organism actually existed
c- god could just as easily have wiped out dinosuars as created them

But maybe I should let one of them explain, as I may have got this wrong.......

 

[chapeau]

I think the creationist story is that the dinosaurs existed at the same time as man and in fact were taken onto Noah's Ark (let's not get into the logistics, it's not meant to be examined in detail).

The flood came, which was a convenient time for God to rearrange the Earth's crust laying down sedimentary rocks with the dinosaur bones below the chimpanzee bones. The flood also gouged out great river valleys which science claims took millions of years to create but that is just a theory after all

Any specialisation/adaptation of species proposed by Darwin is just all part of God's great design and happened at the start.

The dinosaurs died out as they were scoffed by man, as the bible instructs us that god's other creatures have been given to us to provide for our needs.