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No, I'm not back, but my ID still works, and this is a one-off important post.

The MHRA (Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Authority) are proposing to make ephedrine and pseudoephedrine Prescription Only Medicines (POM). Their claimed justification is that these drugs are precursors for methylamphetamine (crystal meth) and they need to make it hard for illicit drug manufacturers to obtain them.

The problem is there is no evidence that a significant amount of crystal meth is made from purchased cold/flu/decongestant remedies. It may be made with them, but most of it is stolen from manufacturers or pharmacies, not bought over the counter.

The downside of their proposal is that you will no longer be able to buy a whole raft of products that have these drugs in their contents. Manufacturers may change their formulation to use the "alternative" phenylephrine, but that is nowhere near as effective, in fact there is considerable doubt as to whether it is any use at all when taken orally.

Organisations such as the PAGB (Proprietary Association of Great Britain) and the National Pharmacy Association are opposed to these proposals:

http://www.pagb.co.uk/media/downloa...and methamphetamine - 27th February 2007.doc

http://www.npa.co.uk/newsarticle.php?id=5ddd91fa302f4069794ecbf734627ba8

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070421/news/p445pseudoephedrine.html

as are a number of readers of the Pharmacy Journal:

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070331/comment/lett01.html

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070414/comment/lett01.html

More here:

PAGB

NPA

Pharmacy Journal

If the reclassification happens, you won't be able to simply buy remedies that you use each winter, either as and when you need, or that you keep in the cupboard just in case. There's a partial list below. Instead you'll have to make a doctor's appointment and go and get a prescription (and if only a small number of the 10's of millions of people who currently treat their symptoms without going to their GP do this they simply won't be able to cope, and the cost to the NHS will be huge). The cost to you will be huge too, as a prescription charge is more expensive than a straight purchase. Or you could just suffer for longer, and take more time off work – I wonder what the cost to the economy of that will be?. Unsurprisingly the RIA in the MHRA proposals does not consider any of these costs.

What can you do?

1) Go to the MHRA website, and comment on their proposals. http://www.mhra.gov.uk/home/idcplg?...030435&RevisionSelectionMethod=LatestReleased

2) Sign the petition on the No. 10 website: http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/stoptheswitch/

3) Write to your MP: http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/l/

4) Pass this on to any other fora you use.


PSEUDOEPHEDRINE CONTAINING PRODUCTS INCLUDE:

Actifed Adult Chesty 100ml Cough liquid
Actifed Adult Dry 100ml Cough liquid
Actifed Liquid 100ml Cold & Flu
Actifed Tablet 12ct Cold & Flu

Actifed Dry Coughs
Actifed Syrup
Actifed Tablets

BCM Day Time Cold Relief
BCM Night Time Cold Relief
BCM Decongestant Tablets
BCM Decongestant Syrup

Benadryl Plus Capsules

Benylin Day & Night tablets
Benylin 4 Flu Liquid
Benylin 4 Flu Tablets
Benylin Cough & Congestion Liquid

Boots Antitussive Linctus
Boots Day Cold Comfort Capsules
Boots Childrens Decongestant Syrup
Boots Decongestant Tablets
Boots Night Cold Comfort Capsules
Boots Paediatric Catarrh Syrup
Boots Cough & Cold relief syrup 2yrs +
Boots Decongestant Syrup
Boots Junior Cough & Cold Sugar Free Syrup With Decongestant
Boots Nirolex Chesty Cough & Congestion Gel
Boots Pharmacy Cold & Flu Night Liquid
Boots Dry Cough Linctus
Boots Pharmacy Day Cold & Flu Capsules
Boots Pharmacy Night Cold & Flu Capsules
Boots Pharmacy Cold & Flu 24-Hour Capsules
Boots Decongestant Tablets With Paracetamol
Boots Cold & Flu Relief With Ibuprofen
Boots Catarrh Cough Syrup

Centapharm Zephrol Cough Expectorant

Congesteze
Congesteze Syrup
Congesteze Paediatric Syrup

Contac Decongestant

Co-op Nasal and Sinus Relief tablets with decongestant

Cupal Bedtime Cold Medicine


Day & Night Nurse Capsule
Day Nurse Capsule
Day Nurse Liquid (160ml & 240ml)

Galpseud Adult Dry Cough Liquid
Galpseud plus linctus
Galpseud tablets 60mg

Galpharm Health Care Sinuclear Plus Tablets
Galpharm Dual Action Non-Drowsy Decongestant Tablets

Lemsip Max Flu Lemon
Lemsip Flu 12hr capsules
Lemsip Cold & Flu Sinus 12hr

LLoyds Pharmacy Nasal & Sinus Relief Tablets with Decongestant
Lloyds Pharmacy Cold and Flu Relief Tablets with Decongestant

Meltus Adult Chesty + Congestion Cough Liquid
Meltus Adult Dry Cough Liquid
Meltus Junior Dry Paediatric Cough Liquid

Nirolex Day Cold Comfort Liquid
Nirolex Dry Cough & Congestion Relief
Nirolex Night Cold Comfort Liquid
Nirolex Chesty Syrup
Nirolex Day Cold & Flu Comfort
Nirolex Day Cold & Flu Capsules
Nirolex Night Cold & Flu Capsules
Nirolex Day & Night 24-Hour Capsules
Nirolex Decongestant Syrup Oral Solution

Numark decongestant tablets with Paracetamol

Nurofen Cold & Flu tablets

Otrivine Mucron Tablets (12s & 24s)

Pseudoephedrine Tablets

Robitussin for Chesty Coughs with Congestion

Sinutab 15s & 30s tablets

Sudafed Elixir
Sudafed Children’s Elixir
Sudafed Decongestant 12’s & 24s tablets
Sudafed Dual Relief Max 12s & 24s tablets
Sudafed Congestion cold & flu capsules
Sudafed 12 hour capsules
Sudafed Linctus
Sudafed Expectorant

Tixylix Cough & Cold Paediatric Dry Cough Liquid

Unichem Day Time Cold Relief Liquid
Unichem Night Time Cold Relief

Vicks Medinite

Waymade Sudafed Tablets


Wrafton Expectorant & Decongestant Cough Syrup
Wrafton Dry Cough Syrup With Decongestant
 
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I hope they do ban the stuff! Daylight robbery anyway - just an expensive way of buying paracetamol. Sounds to me like you're a Lemsip addict BAS ;) .
 
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securespark said:
Maxxy said:
Free prescriptions are a great thing :LOL:
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Yes, with my condition, I am exempt.....
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Ditto...if only the doctors will sort out the right dosage so i dont keep falling asleep!
 
Be cautious; be very cautious. This is "important" only to some people.

ban-all-sheds said:
Organisations such as the PAGB (Proprietary Association of Great Britain) and the National Pharmacy Association are opposed to these proposals:

http://www.pagb.co.uk/media/downloa...and methamphetamine - 27th February 2007.doc

http://www.npa.co.uk/newsarticle.php?id=5ddd91fa302f4069794ecbf734627ba8

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070421/news/p445pseudoephedrine.html[/QUOTE]
The problem with these institutions' expression of opinions is that they all have a commercial axe to grind.

...as are a number of readers of the Pharmacy Journal:

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070331/comment/lett01.html[/QUOTE]
This reader appears to support the switch, and implies criticism of pharmacists. :confused:

http://www.pjonline.com/Editorial/20070414/comment/lett01.html
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Again - this person, being a pharmacist, is rather biased, and claims that the pharmacy profession is capable of monitoring sales in a way that, arguably, they should have been doing already.

If the reclassification happens, you won't be able to simply buy remedies that you use each winter, either as and when you need, or that you keep in the cupboard just in case. There's a partial list below. Instead you'll have to make a doctor's appointment and go and get a prescription (and if only a small number of the 10's of millions of people who currently treat their symptoms without going to their GP do this they simply won't be able to cope, and the cost to the NHS will be huge). The cost to you will be huge too, as a prescription charge is more expensive than a straight purchase. Or you could just suffer for longer, and take more time off work – I wonder what the cost to the economy of that will be?. Unsurprisingly the RIA in the MHRA proposals does not consider any of these costs.
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Unalduterated doom-mongering. :rolleyes:

ban-all-sheds said:
PSEUDOEPHEDRINE CONTAINING PRODUCTS INCLUDE:

a huge list of proprietary symptom-treating concoctions
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In that case don't get coughs and sniffles:- don't smoke, eat more fresh fruit and veg, take vitamin supplements when necessary, learn more about your own body and how it functions/malfunctions, get enough sleep, get enough exercise, learn how to relieve stress, be kind to your mother and to small animals, watch less TV, walk more and drive less, smile more and frown less, love more and hate less.

And stay out of the sheds. ;)
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ricicle said:
Sorry if it was obvious to you Softus, but I never had anything to do with Mr Sheds when he was on this forum :oops:
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Oh. That was unnecessarily thoughtless and unkind of me. :oops:

Please accept my apologies.
 
im not allowed to be ill, im self employed.
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