Installing concealed cistern (no frame) within a stud frame?

[DoNotUseFullName]

Can these be mounted within a stud frame? So far the few that I've seen that show instructions are mounted to a backing wall.

 

[motorbiking]

Do you mean 1. build your own frame? or 2 within a stud wall?

If 1, yes you can make a stud frame, ideally above joists or you can buy a metal frame.

Geberit Duofix 980mm Install Frame With Delta 120mm Concealed Cistern

Geberit Duofix 980mm Install Frame With Delta 120mm Concealed Cistern

www.victorianplumbing.co.uk

2. If you mean will it fit in a stud wall, I would say no, the smallest/narrowest I have seen is 120mm deep.

 

[DoNotUseFullName]

Thanks, yeah the idea is to build a stud frame to suit.

The metal frames are for wall mounting the toilet, isn't it? I'd rather keep expenses down, so happy to forgoe that kind of feature. It's for an under stairs toilet so not looking for anything too fancy

 

[motorbiking]

Yes you can build a wood frame, I've done it myself and it its not a wall hung loo but a back to wall loo, its pretty simple. Don't forget you will need access to the cistern.

 

[terryplumb]

Why not fit a cabinet with the pan sat against it ?

 

[DoNotUseFullName]

Why not fit a cabinet with the pan sat against it ?

I want to make the most of the space under the stairs. The toilet currently has a reasonable gap between it and a large-ish cistern that is mounted on the existing stud wall. I want to bring that all forward, and add whatever space I save to the other side of the stud wall for under stairs storage.

 

[DoNotUseFullName]

That's the plan anyway. I'm in the middle of gutting it at the moment, so we'll see what's doable once the everything is exposed.

 

[terryplumb]

Do you intend to remove the stud wall ,and re build it ,further forward to speak,to make the room that the wc is in smaller,and increase the space on the other side ?
Is that the plan ?
If so where is the soil pipe ,is it in the floor ,or out through an external wall?

 

[DoNotUseFullName]

Yes that's the plan, the soil pipe is in the floor, approx 350-400mm in front of the existing wall. So the plan would be to have the soil pipe just behind the new wall. I don't plan on touching the soil pipe itself, it'll stay where it is.

 

[terryplumb]

Ok. Good luck with your project.