Internal rose door handles

[danoid]

Hello,

I’ve got a new lever on rose door handle as I’m replacing all the old gold backplate handles.

The lever on rose handle is bolt through and comes with 2 screws 1 long and 1 short.

Do I put the short screw in first and get that snug then go from the other side and put the longer screw in or doesn’t it really matter?

Also for the bathroom lever on rose lock the spindle is just a bit too long, what’s the best way to shorten this? I guess a good hack saw?

thanks

 

[jj4091]

Does not matter along as you ensure that the holes through the door are aligned vertically & horizontally so the handles don't jam up on the spindle.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Also for the bathroom lever on rose lock the spindle is just a bit too long, what’s the best way to shorten this? I guess a good hack saw?

Yes. that's normal. I carry a junior hack saw and a pair of pliers to do the job and a small file to take the burrs off (although the side of an oilstone or even the back kitchen step in some cases can do the same). Take care not to cut it too short - it's easily done

 

[JohnD]

sleeve nuts with matching screws are better than woodscrews.

 

[jj4091]

sleeve nuts with matching screws are better than woodscrews.

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I think the op was saying that was what he had. That was the assumption I made anyway.

 

[jj4091]

Yes. that's normal. I carry a junior hack saw and a pair of pliers to do the job and a small file to take the burrs off (although the side of an oilstone or even the back kitchen step in some cases can do the same). Take care not to cut it too short - it's easily done

I've always found them too hard for a hacksaw & use an angle grinder.

 

[danoid]

sleeve nuts with matching screws are better than woodscrews.

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It’s very similar what comes in the packet.

I’ve added them on the handle whilst the old holes are filled and painted so I don’t lose them

 

[danoid]

Yes. that's normal. I carry a junior hack saw and a pair of pliers to do the job and a small file to take the burrs off (although the side of an oilstone or even the back kitchen step in some cases can do the same). Take care not to cut it too short - it's easily done

This is the annoying thing I only need to cut off a few mm so will be hard to do I expect

 

[Deleted member 174758]

In that case a grinder - or a 8 to 10in flat file

 

[foxhole]

This is the annoying thing I only need to cut off a few mm so will be hard to do I expect

You don’t shorten a few mm , you cut at unthreaded area, the sleeve nut is long enough to accommodate this.
I use wire cutters to snip thru.
For spindle a few second on the belt sander will take of a few mm.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Wasn't the original comment about the spindle?

 

[danoid]

I shortened the spindle a few mm and working okay.

The whole thing was a pain, if I tighten the screws for the through bolt then the door handle is very stiff, same story with the WC lock hard to open and close.

I must be doing something wrong but not sure what or why it’s so difficult to change a door handle, but I do believe DIY stands for Don’t Involve Yourself.

Any ideas why tightening the screws make it’s difficult to open and close and to use the lock? Backing off the bolt through screws makes it smoother but then it wobbles a bit.

I’ve not bothered to put the screws for the fixing holes as they make it even worse when trying to open the door, I can only assume the fixing screws foul the latch as they are quite long

 

[foxhole]

You probably cut the recess a little too tight so tightening the screws pinches the latch mechanism.Or spindle hole is too small again pinching the catch.

 

[danoid]

You probably cut the recess a little too tight so tightening the screws pinches the latch mechanism.Or spindle hole is too small again pinching the catch.

The only additional holes I made was for the two through bolts, the holes for both spindles were left as is because I’m just changing from back plate handle to lever on rose.

Last year I changed all the latches in prep for this as the one latches didn’t have the holes for the through bolt, but I made sure to buy smith & Locke latches and handles hoping it would be an easy job but clearly not

 

[foxhole]

The only additional holes I made was for the two through bolts, the holes for both spindles were left as is because I’m just changing from back plate handle to lever on rose.

Last year I changed all the latches in prep for this as the one latches didn’t have the holes for the through bolt, but I made sure to buy smith & Locke latches and handles hoping it would be an easy job but clearly not

Yes , the change to thru boltscould be pinching the catch as you previously had nothing near the catches with previous handles .