Is a Hormann push switch just a door bell button?

[jweaver]

I just moved into a house which has a Hormann garage door and opener.. i want to add a “manual” switch but am not sure if i have to buy theirs, or whether its just a standard momentary switch like a door bell.

Does anyone know if i can simply short the terminals to operate the door?

 

[kingandy2nd]

I removed a Hormann garage door once, and it seemed to have a button which looked like a doorbell. I'm pretty sure you can get the Hormann ones for about £15, so not bank breaking if you went down the official route.

 

[jweaver]

Cheers.. For £15 I would get the official one (although the one I fitted before was HORRIBLE as it was really hard to press and it was impossible to know if you had activated it)...

But the cheapest I have found is more like £35.. And they appear to be out of stock too...


All I need to do is pluck up the courage to short the pins and see if it cycles the door.. I am willing to bet it will.. But if I am wrong it could be a costly mistake should the short blow something in the unit.

By the way, the model is a SupraMatic E2 if that helps anyone.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

My roller garage door came with two wireless remote controls, but the PCB mounted buttons were not as positive as the could be, so I added a sprung to centre toggle switch to each - centre off, up for up, down for down. One I put near the back door and one in the car, a third one would have been handy in the garage itself, so I added a wired to the controller switches rather than wireless.....

I mounted three normally open push button switches, in a small plastic box - up, down and stop, which I fixed on the wall.

 

[jweaver]

My roller garage door came with two wireless remote controls, but the PCB mounted buttons were not as positive as the could be, so I added a sprung to centre toggle switch to each - centre off, up for up, down for down. One I put near the back door and one in the car, a third one would have been handy in the garage itself, so I added a wired to the controller switches rather than wireless.....

I mounted three normally open push button switches, in a small plastic box - up, down and stop, which I fixed on the wall.

Interesting. I am not sure I have the option have one switch for up.. And one for down.. I just have a single pair of contacts, so it just cycles the door up or down.

I am interested in your other comment about using the up and down buttons on the remote.. I hate the fact that you use the same button to go up/stop/down.. I wonder if there is a way to use the extra buttons on the remote so one goes up.. and the other down...

I am going to look into that.

I think I am just going to stick a bit of wire in the contacts and touch them together and see what happens.. Whats the worse that could happen

 

[kingandy2nd]

Wow, that’s a crazy price. Sorry, I didn’t pay 15, it was £21 delivered.

I’m guessing they’re low on stock at the moment, but the prices should go the other way as I can’t believe that’s just inflation since October

 

[jweaver]

Thats the one.. "Currently Unavailable" on Amazon.. Out of stock most places.. Those that have it want almost £40...

I found an email for Hormann.. They told me that a push switch is fine.. So I am going to test it.. I think I am overthinking this.. A simple short on a pair of wires will almost certainly trigger the door.

 

[JohnD]

check the voltage. Bell pushes are often insulated for 12v or something

but you can get mains voltage ones.

Are there just two wires? A "momentary" switch is what you want.

put a durable label on it.

you can get illuminated ones but you need to know the voltage

 

[jweaver]

Yes.. Just 2 wires.. But the logo on the board seems to imply that the switch is held by a relay...

After some research I am 99% sure that a simple press button is all I need... So I am going to do some tests.

WHat do you mean by "durable label"?

Jon

 

[jweaver]

All sorted.. I just put a pair of wires in the contact and dabbed them together and door goes down.. Again and it stops.. And a 3rd time it goes up.. .

So this is a non-issue.. Any push switch rated at 24v will do the job... Thanks all.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

I am interested in your other comment about using the up and down buttons on the remote.. I hate the fact that you use the same button to go up/stop/down.. I wonder if there is a way to use the extra buttons on the remote so one goes up.. and the other down...

I am going to look into that.

In that case, probably you cannot do it.