Is the plumber telling me fibs?

[Dangee]

Well ajohn. Take it from an expert, unless using authentic ballafix (which you will never have seen) they WILL leak when turned once they are a few years old. What is your Gassafe number? Are you WRAS qualified to self certificate on water? Muppet.
I tell you what, pop in to your cylinder cupboard, check your central heating pump. If it's got ballafix type pump valves, give it a quick turn for me then come back & tell me they don't leak.
A little bit of knowledge of plumbing is very dangerous.
I come across idiots like you all the time.

 

[transam]

As far as I know ofsted inspections will. Look into or want to see records of any water checking regimes in place at a school

Private schools are technically more at risk or have to be more aware of rules and regs caper as they coukd be sued by parents or who ever

State sector

who u gonna sue? The government?

Good luck with that than

 

[transam]

All new bathrooms in domestic

Tmv on hot out let

Bath replaced or bath room. Revamped tmv on hot out let

Land Lords in the private sector tread a careful path

Tenants out to sue you at the drop. Of a hat

 

[transam]

There was a horrific case. Of a 18 year. Old girl. Who suffered from. Eplietic fits

Went around her mother's hse. For a shower

Collapsed in the cubicle she had a fit

As she fell she knocked the shower hot leaver onto full hot

She was doused with hot water in excess of 60 degrees for 10 mins?

Horrifically scared

Shower was a non thermostatic mixer

 

[transam]

Another case district heating in an old people's complex

Old girl went to. Get out of bed fell and got stuck between the bed and radiator

Heating came on and cooked her

She died

A case for low surface temp radiators may be

 

[Dangee]

Remember the immersion heater case that helped bring on the overheat stat. A faulty immersion wouldn't turn off, the plastic tank in the loft softened & burst with 50 gallons of steaming hot water dropping onto an infant below. It can't happen now but there are still loads of the old type out there.

 

[Brigadier]

Any hot water should be stored at 60 degs c or above

Or brought up to that temp at some time in a 24 hour period

Particular attention paid to the base of any storage cylinder

Hot water needs to be delivered to a hot tap at a minimum temp with in I think 2 min

Cold water temp. Must not exceed a max temp of I think 20 degs with in a time frame

Temp checks carried out on a reg basis

Flushing regime in place due to un used out let's and stagnation issues

Records kept

Tmvs audited and safety checked at least annually

Kitchen sinks do not neccedsrily. Require tmv protection of a max temp of 41 degs less for small. Children elderly or infirm that's 38 degs max

Thermostatic showers checked for safety shut down

Kitchen sinks in commercial are not designated as hand washing neccedsrily

Cut out redundant dead legs too, as water can stagnate there , and grow the bacteria.

 

[Dangee]

Should have been an LST rad anyway I would have thought

 

[transam]

Remember the immersion heater case that helped bring on the overheat stat. A faulty immersion wouldn't turn off, the plastic tank in the loft softened & burst with 50 gallons of steaming hot water dropping onto an infant below. It can't happen now but there are still loads of the old type out there.

Yep I recall that

Also not helped by a chipboard base to. The cold tank that got wet and Collapsed

Never install a cold tank above a bed Imho.

 

[Dangee]

If I really have to put a MST in, I spread the weight over a wall beneath

 

[conny]

Any hot water should be stored at 60 degs c or above

Or brought up to that temp at some time in a 24 hour period

Particular attention paid to the base of any storage cylinder

Hot water needs to be delivered to a hot tap at a minimum temp with in I think 2 min

Cold water temp. Must not exceed a max temp of I think 20 degs with in a time frame

Temp checks carried out on a reg basis

Flushing regime in place due to un used out let's and stagnation issues

Records kept

Tmvs audited and safety checked at least annually

Kitchen sinks do not neccedsrily. Require tmv protection of a max temp of 41 degs less for small. Children elderly or infirm that's 38 degs max

Thermostatic showers checked for safety shut down

Kitchen sinks in commercial are not designated as hand washing neccedsrily

Who is responsible for carrying out these checks? Do the schools hire someone qualified or can someone with a bit of training do them?
The reason for asking is my boss was saying at the start of this year that these are the checks that need to be done on a regular basis but didn't say who would be doing them. If I'm expected to do them then I want to know what the requirements are and what training is available. I assume the temp one is more than simply sticking a thermometer under a running tap. Regarding the flushing of toilets every one of them is flushed at least 3 times per day by the cleaners doing their rounds and they have to record the location and time.

 

[transam]

Who is responsible for carrying out these checks? Do the schools hire someone qualified or can someone with a bit of training do them?
The reason for asking is my boss was saying at the start of this year that these are the checks that need to be done on a regular basis but didn't say who would be doing them. If I'm expected to do them then I want to know what the requirements are and what training is available. I assume the temp one is more than simply sticking a thermometer under a running tap. Regarding the flushing of toilets every one of them is flushed at least 3 times per day by the cleaners doing their rounds and they have to record the location and time.

There are specialist companies who will. Do. An inspection a d make recommendations

You need to. Get a copy of the Hse
Publication the control of legionella bacteria in water systems its very good

There are courses for maintenance personnel. Available

Most companies carry g out inspections will also take water samples for analysis which will. Be checked for bacteria etc

 

[transam]

As usual all these rules etc come to the fore if some thing go's wrong an incident occurs

And as usual one needs to have in place some thing to cover ones arris

 

[Brigadier]

Who is responsible for carrying out these checks? Do the schools hire someone qualified or can someone with a bit of training do them?
The reason for asking is my boss was saying at the start of this year that these are the checks that need to be done on a regular basis but didn't say who would be doing them. If I'm expected to do them then I want to know what the requirements are and what training is available. I assume the temp one is more than simply sticking a thermometer under a running tap. Regarding the flushing of toilets every one of them is flushed at least 3 times per day by the cleaners doing their rounds and they have to record the location and time.

Trained people, either externals or inhouse.

Also, whoever will need to consider that, like many risk assessments, it will change with changing building occupancy ; a full college will probably have few outlets that need recorded flushing, because they will be in continual use. Contrast that with the current situation, where stuff will go unused until the assessor actually flushes it.
Same goes for fire risk assessments; events that would be detected within moments (because there are people about) now will not be , and could become uncontrollable before they are detected.

 

[durhamplumber]

Rubber

Harbours bacteria potentially

They kink,burst,rot,the braiding rubs away the rubber at times,etc.