Is this normal...painting wardrobe doors....advice needed please

[dazzystar]

Hi All,

Four coats of undercoat so far using Leyland white primer and undercoat and a Two Fussy Blokes mini roller sleeves and I can still see the previously painted black wood surface a little. Is this normal? Do I now call it a day and start painting with the top coat (Leyland Multi Surface satin)?

Here's a pic of the wardrobe doors...

Cheers
Daz

 

[Wayners]

What have you painted white?
I can only see a small white band and you didn't use a roller for that.

 

[Koolpc]

It's invisible white paint..

 

[dazzystar]

That was before I started painting. It's now had 4 coats of white undercoat.

 

[Wayners]

Ok.

You are not putting enough on I suspect.
Waterbased paint needs to be applied to the point it's starting to run however, you don't want it to run.
People apply to around 30 microns when you want to be nearer 100 depending on the paint spec.
You can buy a paint depth comb cheap to test but once you work it out all will be ok..

 

[Wayners]

I find it easier to take doors off and lay horizontal as you can get more paint on without runs.
Other option is to paint and get a summer fan blowing to dry paint as less likely to get runs

 

[foxhole]

Changing from dark to light colour you would undercoat in light grey , only one coat required .
With doors off flood painting requires one coat .

 

[dazzystar]

do you think that after 4 coats of undercoat I'm okay to start with the top coats?

 

[Wayners]

Yeah.

Get top coats on

 

[dazzystar]

Will do...cheers!

 

[opps]

As much as I like the Leyland Trade primer undercoat... it is pants at obliterating darks colours. I normally use the white Dulux Trade oil based undercoat when trying to paint over black, two coats is often, but not always, sufficient. That said, I appreciate that you want to stick with waterbased paints.

With regards to waterbased paints, @Wayners is the pro-decorator here, to whom, I would defer when it comes down to waterbased paints. Emulsion aside, most waterbased paints make me grumpy, and I am not a grumpy person by nature.

 

[dazzystar]

I've also got a small wall with black matt paint. I was going to use my matt ceiling emulsion on that (also Leyland). Would that be ok instead of undercoat?

 

[Wayners]

You can buy obliterating emulsion but I've never needed to use it.
I would of expected 3 coats of undercoat would be enough to cover anything.

If you are struggling go with a gray undercoat before a white.

 

[dazzystar]

Thanks. So is that a no to use ceiling emulsion on the wall I have with black? Here's a pic...

 

[Wayners]

Yeah.
Id never stick a chalky contract matt on a wall.
Minimum id use a vinyl matt or anything with acrylic or better resins in.
Smother. Sticks better.Seals.