@Jurassicspark- I can see I'm going to have to recap, because you seem to have lost your own plot.
However, new fancy showers do consume a few watts on standby.
WOE does a shower need to be "on standby"?
Some fancy, although rare, digital showers have a display and can use a few watts.
So - please take note of where we are, take note of the word I used in #7 - "
need". Where we are is you saying that some showers
need to be left on standby because they have a display.
Therefore everything after that is based on the suggestion that some
showers need to be left on standby because they have a display.
What your opinion on boiler/fridges/washing machines, when not running, with an illuminated display?
My reply to that had to deal with the problem that "running" or "not running" is not necessarily well defined for all of those appliances.
My boiler is powered up right now, but it's not burning any gas, it's not running any pumps, the CH is not heating and nobody is drawing hot water. But is it "running" because it is powered up and ready, on the receipt of triggers, to start heating water and turning on a pump? It's in one of its correct modes of operation, and in that mode it will sometimes activate the pump even if there's no call for heating, and it's constantly monitoring the pressure in the heating system, so it could be said to be running.
A fridge when powered and switched on is running all the time, even if the compressor isn't actually compressing.
Washing machines etc - I don't think that many people would say that one, even if powered, switched on, programme set, but hadn't had 'start' pressed, or the door closed, or whatever, was "running", but for a boiler or a fridge it
might be necessary to unplug it for it to be "not running".
Wifi control or an alert if the fridge door is left open i.e not properly closed.
You said that in response to this:
What your opinion on boiler/fridges/washing machines, when not running, with an illuminated display?
So if I unplug my boiler, or my fridge, so that they are
no longer running, my opinion on them having a
display which is still illuminated (presumably battery operated) is "what purpose would that serve?"
What does "
Wifi control or an alert if the fridge door is left open" have to do with my opinion on having a
display which is still illuminated on an appliance which is
no longer running?
See what I mean about you losing the plot?
However, there is not such thing as a battery in a boiler or a washing machine.
No, but
if you have an appliance where the only way to ensure it is
no longer running is to cut the power to it, how else could you have a
display which is still illuminated?
I did go on to also give my opinion on "machines,
when not running, with an illuminated display?" which are
not running because I'd turned them off with their controls.
Why would you do that though?
Why would I do that?
How about to bring about the scenario you asked me to comment on?:
What your opinion on boiler/fridges/washing machines, when not running, with an illuminated display?
If I don't unplug them, but have turned them off with their controls, my opinion on them having a display which is still illuminated is "what purpose would that serve?"
See what I mean about you losing the plot?
Of course the LED display is going to turn off.
Not necessarily - a piece of equipment switched off with its controls but still powered could still have an illuminated display. In fact I think my boiler, if I turn it off from the control panel but leave it powered, displays the CH pressure.
No one said it wasn't a shower.
No, but you'd gone off on a tangent about boilers and fridges, and displays on those when "not powered on", and so when you said "some electronics are best left plugged in" I thought it was worthwhile to re-establish the context of these electronics:
You do know that some electronics are best left plugged in, don't you?
This is a shower. It's basically a very powerful electric kettle. The most electronics it's going to have (need) are soft switches for on/off/temperature/flow-rate, thermostat, and flow-switch detection.
Why do they need to be permanently powered?
The most electronics it's going to have (need) are soft switches for on/off/temperature/flow-rate, thermostat, and flow-switch detection.
Not all though.
No, not all, which is why I said "most". Some have less.
Do you know of any which have more? Also note I said
need, so do you know of any which need more?
They don't have to be but they are better left powered on.
In what way are the electronics in a
shower better left powered on?
