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[morqthana]

The splice, the termination, is incredibly delicate. It goes into a termination box, which is designed for several loops of each side of the fibre wrap around, to ensure stability, before the actual splice.

OK

Then will be stuck with no broadband, or fixed line phone. You will be limited to mobile services, when copper comes to an end soon.

Copper is not "coming to an end soon".

 

[SUNRAY]

The splice, the termination, is incredibly delicate. It goes into a termination box, which is designed for several loops of each side of the fibre wrap around, to ensure stability, before the actual splice.



Then will be stuck with no broadband, or fixed line phone. You will be limited to mobile services, when copper comes to an end soon.

We have been on a 'full fibre' service for a year or so now...



except that....



we are still on a copper pair from the cab




as we don't have ducts along the road and we have a no poles rule by the council.

 

[AndyPRK]

If you move supplier (OR), and fibre is in your area, you will be forced onto FTTP.
This can mean a 3 month wait to get the fibre to your house.

I was the first in my close to get it around easter this year. They had to dig all the way down the road to put a duct in and then another exercise to get it to my house. A neighbour also has it now.

Ironically City fibre had already put their ducts in (to the boundary) a long time ago, but I still can't order it.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

We have been on a 'full fibre' service for a year or so now...
except that....
we are still on a copper pair from the cab

We had that for a year or two, fibre from the exchange, to the cab, then translated by the cab, for the copper final half mile. It permitted slightly higher speeds, and higher reliability. Prior to that, and for many decades, we had copper all the way.

Then a fibre company came along, and added a fibre access point at the end of every drive. I inquired about the cost of moving to fibre, but the cost was ridiculous, so I didn't bother.

My copper 40Mbps provider, Plusnet, kept on increasing their charges each year, but along came CityFibre/Youfibre, promising a much cheaper option, with a switch to fibre, and 150Mbs each way, so I accepted their offer earlier this year, along with porting my number to fibre. I get a consistent 150+, and cheaper, so no complaint from me.

I now, like many neighbours, have two lines from the pole, the fibre, and the redundant copper line.

 

[davelx]

I now, like many neighbours, have two lines from the pole, the fibre, and the redundant copper line.

Those old copper cables develop a tendency to snap in a light breeze when they are no longer in use

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Those old copper cables develop a tendency to snap in a light breeze when they are no longer in use

Yep, the electrons regularly passing through them keeps the copper fresh and flexible

 

[morqthana]

we are still on a copper pair from the cab




as we don't have ducts along the road and we have a no poles rule by the council.

So you couldn't have FTTP even if you wanted it?

 

[AndyPRK]

they can dig the pavement up and install ducts!

 

[SUNRAY]

So you couldn't have FTTP even if you wanted it?

Nope

 

[SUNRAY]

they can dig the pavement up and install ducts!

Council can't overide the legal restrictions within the original landowners and developers restrictions. To the point that council may repair/resurface the pavement but similar for the road surface or digging up the pavement has to go through the planning process which involves the developers approvals. Our services including original SWA telephone cables are buried direct not in ducts, with a buried joint by every house.

Several years back our gas pipes were lined with poly and the contractors were slapped with a hefty fine.

Any building works on the houses we have to get council PP and developers permission and we have no permitted developement.

A crazy situation it most certainly is.
Whereas the next road along have had 2 lots of fibre ducts installed in the last few years and currently anyone wanting OR fibre they come along and dig a duct in which is being done piecemeal as required but I see they do add a tee piece at each property while they are doing it.

 

[endecotp]

next road along have had 2 lots of fibre ducts installed in the last few years and currently anyone wanting OR fibre they come along and dig a duct in

While where I am, OpenReach won’t install a 15m duct because “expensive” and want fugly new poles and overhead fibres instead.

 

[SUNRAY]

So in the next road we have this arrangement: CH, Virgin & OR in front of one house.

I think correct as I cant read the names in my pic.

 

[SUNRAY]

While where I am, OpenReach won’t install a 15m duct because “expensive” and want fugly new poles and overhead fibres instead.

Poles not permitted and lamp standards limited to 4.8m. No walls or hedges in front of building line yada yada yada

 

[morqthana]

Several years back our gas pipes were lined with poly and the contractors were slapped with a hefty fine.

By whom?

Any building works on the houses we have to get council PP and developers permission and we have no permitted developement.

A crazy situation it most certainly is.
Whereas the next road along have had 2 lots of fibre ducts installed in the last few years and currently anyone wanting OR fibre they come along and dig a duct in which is being done piecemeal as required but I see they do add a tee piece at each property while they are doing it.

I struggle to see what legitimate interest a housebuilder would have in preventing underground service ducts being installed outside houses he no longer <bleeping> owns, and wouldn't a court also?

Under Section 84 of the Law of Property Act 1925, you can apply to the Lands Tribunal to have a covenant discharged or modified if it is deemed obsolete, unreasonable, or impedes reasonable property use.

 

[SUNRAY]

By whom?

Court

I struggle to see what legitimate interest a housebuilder would have in preventing underground service ducts being installed outside houses he no longer <bleeping> owns, and wouldn't a court also?

Under Section 84 of the Law of Property Act 1925, you can apply to the Lands Tribunal to have a covenant discharged or modified if it is deemed obsolete, unreasonable, or impedes reasonable property use.

Another court threw that out.

Every 25 years it costs the developers a day in court to renew it, they are bound by the covenants of the former owners which includes mining/quarrying rights.