Israel accepts the numbers are correct...

[morqthana]

Racial history is a big part of the problem. If people would shut up about this or that which happened so long ago that everyone and their grandkids are all dead then we might just have a chance of peace in the world.

Those who are more intelligent than this should set an example, not drop to the other lot's depth.

I wish more people would look at history to see where previous attempts to implement ideas similar to some of today's led.

It would do some people good to consider how many parallels there are between today's Islamophobic and racist anti-migrant rhetoric from rabble-rousing populist politicians and mass circulation media, and the anti-Semitic stuff from the same sorts of sources a century ago.

 

[JohnD]

Only the favourite target has changed.

And the oppressor.

 

[Odds]

he Israel-Palestine director of Human Rights Watch (HRW) has resigned in protest, saying the organisation’s new chief blocked a report accusing Israel of committing “crimes against humanity” in its denial of Palestinian refugees’ right of return.

Omar Shakir, who has worked for the rights group for more than 10 years, told Al Jazeera on Tuesday that the report “sought to connect the erasure of camps in Gaza with the emptying of camps in the West Bank, with the full assault led by the Israeli government against UNRWA, the [United Nations] aid agency for Palestinian refugees...

He said he had been told that Executive Director Philippe Bolopion, who took the helm of HRW late last year, was worried the report would be misread by “detractors” as a call to “demographically extinguish the Jewishness of the Israeli state”, according to his resignation letter seen by Al Jazeera and dated January 15.

Shakir wrote: “Through this process, I have lost my faith in the integrity of how we do our work and our commitment to principled reporting on the facts and application of the law.”

 

[Vinty]

You know an Israeli government spokesman has lost the argument when they drag up the holocaust

Norman Finkelstein wrote a book called "The Holocaust industry'.
Finklestein himself is Jewish.

 

[Odds]

Norman Finkelstein wrote a book called "The Holocaust industry'.
Finklestein himself is Jewish.

Is he related to the journalist, Daniel F.?

 

[fillyboy]

Norman Finkelstein wrote a book called "The Holocaust industry'.
Finklestein himself is Jewish.

The book was received negatively in many quarters, with critics charging that it was poorly researched and/or allowed others to exploit it for antisemitic purposes. The German historian Hans Mommsen disparaged the first edition as "a most trivial book, which appeals to easily aroused anti-Semitic prejudices". Israeli Holocaust historian Israel Gutman called it "a lampoon, which takes a serious subject and distorts it for improper purposes. I don't even think it should be reviewed or critiqued as a legitimate book."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#cite_note-37"><span>[</span>37<span>]</span></a> The Holocaust Industry was also harshly criticized by Brown University Professor Omer Bartov,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#cite_note-bartov_review-38"><span>[</span>38<span>]</span></a> University of Chicago Professor Peter Novick and other reviewers accusing Finkelstein of selective or dubious evidence and misinterpretation of history.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#cite_note-39"><span>[</span>39<span>]</span></a> At the time the book was published in Germany, Der Spiegel reported the country was "in the grip of Holocaust madness. Finkelstein is being taken seriously. What he says corresponds with what many who do not know the facts think." In an interview, Finkelstein said, "the Holocaust is a political weapon. Germans have legitimate reasons to defend themselves against this abuse".<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Finkelstein#cite_note-40"><span>[</span>40<span>]</span></a>

 

[transam]

Far far fewer. Some of them killed by Israeli tanks and helicopter gunships.

I expect you'll agree that Israeli gunmen hid among them to use the civilians as human shields.

So that's all right eh?

BS

Nonsense imo

Turn yer vitriol on Hamas / a terrorist organisation they were the cause hiding behind there population including woman and children

Was not Corbyn a supporter of hamas

 

[Londoner2]

Revealed: Israel bulldozed part of Gaza war cemetery containing allied graves

Satellite images and witness testimony show destruction as IDF claims it was forced to take defensive measures

www.theguardian.com

Well we'll well.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I find it weird that we're apparently so hurt and offended that they've damaged some graves where some of our people were... who were already dead.

What insignificant percentage of terrible is this in comparison to all the death and unimaginable suffering they've caused, deliberately, to the people who lived there?

 

[JohnD]

I find it weird that we're apparently so hurt and offended that they've damaged some graves where some of our people were... who were already dead.

What insignificant percentage of terrible is this in comparison to all the death and unimaginable suffering they've caused, deliberately, to the people who lived there?

Some people think that cemeteries should be respected.

ESJF The European Jewish Cemeteries initiative: Protecting the Jewish cemeteries of Europe

The ESJF European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative was established in 2015 by Rabbi Isaac Schapira as a German-based non-profit with the core objective of preserving Jewish cemeteries across Europe and most particularly in the regions impacted by the devastating consequences of the Shoah.

www.esjf-cemeteries.org

Obviously the Israeli army doesn't.

Nor ivor or highwayman.

Perhaps this is due to racist hatred.

 

[fillyboy]

Perhaps this is due to racist hatred.

Or that in a war heavily reliant on the use of tunnels, the retaliating forces might want to locate and destroy those tunnels.

 

[JohnD]

Or in a war designed to exterminate the local population and erase all traces of their history, demolishing and bulldozing ancient monuments and cemeteries is jolly good fun for the oppressor.

 

[Deluks]

Or that in a war heavily reliant on the use of tunnels, the retaliating forces might want to locate and destroy those tunnels.

Pretty fkin stupid when you've got your own people held as hostages, quite possibly inside those same tunnels.

 

[ellal]

I find it weird that we're apparently so hurt and offended that they've damaged some graves where some of our people were... who were already dead.

What insignificant percentage of terrible is this in comparison to all the death and unimaginable suffering they've caused, deliberately, to the people who lived there?

Maybe you ought to ask that to those who get incredibly 'hurt' when a jewish grave is damaged...

None of it is right, but indignation only applies one way round in some quarters!

 

[Highway Man]

Some people think that cemeteries should be respected.

ESJF The European Jewish Cemeteries initiative: Protecting the Jewish cemeteries of Europe

The ESJF European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative was established in 2015 by Rabbi Isaac Schapira as a German-based non-profit with the core objective of preserving Jewish cemeteries across Europe and most particularly in the regions impacted by the devastating consequences of the Shoah.

www.esjf-cemeteries.org

Obviously the Israeli army doesn't.

Nor ivor or highwayman.

Perhaps this is due to racist hatred.

Not true, there is a small Jewish cemetery in Hull which forms part of my mates garden, They built a new motorway through Hull city centre and the whole motorway had to be diverted around this small cemetery which houses approximately 12 bodies. The motorway cut through an old normal cemetery where they exhumed 100 bodies. They couldn't do anything to the Jewish cemetery other than go around it and I completely agreed with it.