Joist Support
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Or is it the vertical support that it's moving?
There's filler on the left of the joint and little cracks on the ceiling, surely not an inch, has it been like this from the start?
The vertical support should've been fixed at the top as well.
Take a spirit level and check the vertical plumb.
There's filler on the left of the joint and little cracks on the ceiling, surely not an inch, has it been like this from the start?
The vertical support should've been fixed at the top as well.
Take a spirit level and check the vertical plumb.
Thanks for the replies, sorry for the delay.
@johnny2007 I took a spirit level to it and the vertical post is not straight at all. It starts bending about half way up.
@KenGMac I agree that the post has twisted as well as bent.
You can see in the pic below how wonky the post is. It curves considerably to the right in the photo.
However it also appears to have twisted because there is a large gap on one side but not on the other:
PS There is an identical post on the other side of the room but that one is perfectly vertical and the joist is sat snuggly on top with no gaps either side.
@johnny2007 I took a spirit level to it and the vertical post is not straight at all. It starts bending about half way up.
@KenGMac I agree that the post has twisted as well as bent.
You can see in the pic below how wonky the post is. It curves considerably to the right in the photo.
However it also appears to have twisted because there is a large gap on one side but not on the other:
PS There is an identical post on the other side of the room but that one is perfectly vertical and the joist is sat snuggly on top with no gaps either side.
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That's why it needed strapping at the top.
If I was you I would try clamping the 2 pieces together and see if there's any give.
If not enough, I would keep it clamped and keep a wet towel wrapped around the vertical post where it twists and keep it wet.
Over time it should start giving in and the clamp could be tightened more.
If all worked, over a few weeks the post should be in its original position ready to be properly strapped and secured to the other piece of wood.
This sometimes works, some other times it doesn't.
Otherwise it's time for a new post or metal supports which will not look great.
If not enough, I would keep it clamped and keep a wet towel wrapped around the vertical post where it twists and keep it wet.
Over time it should start giving in and the clamp could be tightened more.
If all worked, over a few weeks the post should be in its original position ready to be properly strapped and secured to the other piece of wood.
This sometimes works, some other times it doesn't.
Otherwise it's time for a new post or metal supports which will not look great.
Yes, and if you can, strap it at the top.
You'll need to remove some of the ceiling for that.
diynoob, good evening again.
OK more images.
From the last set of images posted.
1/. The post does not go up into the loft.
2/. Is that a splice I can see in the beam?? which appears to allow the bottom of the splice to sit [roughly] central on the post??
Is there a difference in the gap between the post rebate and the beam on each side of the post?
If it were me, I would use your new clamp + sacrificial timbers between the clamp jaws and the post and beam see how far you can compress the post towards the beam leave tight for a while then re-tighten again.
Ken.
OK more images.
From the last set of images posted.
1/. The post does not go up into the loft.
2/. Is that a splice I can see in the beam?? which appears to allow the bottom of the splice to sit [roughly] central on the post??
Is there a difference in the gap between the post rebate and the beam on each side of the post?
If it were me, I would use your new clamp + sacrificial timbers between the clamp jaws and the post and beam see how far you can compress the post towards the beam leave tight for a while then re-tighten again.
Ken.
I see the post has been cut too short to be strapped at the top.
Basically it's free to move as it wishes.
Basically it's free to move as it wishes.
johnny2007, good evening.
What I do is to click on the image, choose the "save as" option and you [should] find that you can store the image and more importantly adjust the [say] brightness or in this case zoom in and around the image, if the image is large enough it is remarkable just how much detail can be revealed??
Ken.
What I do is to click on the image, choose the "save as" option and you [should] find that you can store the image and more importantly adjust the [say] brightness or in this case zoom in and around the image, if the image is large enough it is remarkable just how much detail can be revealed??
Ken.
From the first image it looked like the post was all the way to the ceiling.
The 2 inch gap wasn't evident like in your last pictures.
Anyhow, you have a good battle in your hands.
The post could be straightened but to be properly strapped you will need to either add some wood or some metal to it.
That will not look perfect unfortunately.
Other solution would be to replace the post.
Or, clamp the wood together as suggested above and bolt it.
Then hope that the post will not pull the joist out of place.
Yes, the beam is spliced directly above the post.
Still waiting for the clamps to arrive then I’ll see how I get on. I doubt I’ll be able to straighten the post but if I can tease it back towards the beam then hopefully I can fix it in place to stop it from moving again
Still waiting for the clamps to arrive then I’ll see how I get on. I doubt I’ll be able to straighten the post but if I can tease it back towards the beam then hopefully I can fix it in place to stop it from moving again
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