Kitchen Wiring

[mikeey84]

Hi All, before I ask my question, I would first like to say that I am not planning on doing any of the electrical work myself, this is very much just seeing if I am thinking along the right lines, so when my brother in law comes (sparky) I can have the right floorboards lifted, and maybe have some chases cut.

That said, I am installing a 3 amp cooker hood, and some LED strip undercupboard lights, prob 4-5W in total. Could I run both of these off the lighting circuit using a single Fused spur to one junction box? Would wiring a PIR motion detector into into the undercupboard lights be an easy (cheap!) thing to do?

Thanks in advance for any useful information!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Could I run both of these off the lighting circuit using a single Fused spur to one junction box?

What sort of junction box? Where would it be?

Are you aware of the rules for concealed cables?

Would wiring a PIR motion detector into into the undercupboard lights be an easy (cheap!) thing to do?

Not particularly difficult or expensive, but more difficult, more expensive than a switch, and nowhere near as good.

What's wrong with a switch on the wall?

 

[mikeey84]

Hi Ban, to answer your questions:

1) I was thinking a blank plug socket style arrangement with a fuse in it.

Could both the lights and the hood be connected to a cable from the lighting circuit in it, or would they need separate ones?

2) Yes, I (think) I understand the rules about zones, being inline with visible boxes, corners and thin walls (party wall so that shouldnt be an issue!)

3) I think its just my love of making things needlessly complex. Not sure it would work with a dog anyway, just like the idea of them coming on whilst i nip through in the night to go to the loo so I dont stand on the dog!

 

[SaladFingers]

3) I think its just my love of making things needlessly complex. Not sure it would work with a dog anyway, just like the idea of them coming on whilst i nip through in the night to go to the loo so I dont stand on the dog!

Why is your wife sleeping in the kitchen?

 

[mikeey84]

Why is your wife sleeping in the kitchen?

Easy tiger. No need for that.

(although its exactly what I would have said )

 

[SaladFingers]

Why is your wife sleeping in the kitchen?

Easy tiger. No need for that.

(although its exactly what I would have said )

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

(although its exactly what I would have said )

I bet!

 

[Taylortwocities]

Would wiring a PIR motion detector into into the undercupboard lights be an easy (cheap!) thing to do?
!

Easy enough, but you don't need an outdoor type of PIR -

one of THESE will sort you out.

swipe your hand under the cupboard and the light goes on, another swipe and it's off. A bit like what Cameron does to Cleggy!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

a blank plug socket style arrangement with a fuse in it.

That sounds like a fused connection unit. Which you described as supplying a junction box.

Could both the lights and the hood be connected to a cable from the lighting circuit in it, or would they need separate ones?

Depends on where cable(s) should most sensibly run. I take it the LED strips don't have a plug-in power supply?

This is notifiable work, so really you should discuss with your b-i-l how it should be done and what he is happy for you to do.

But give up the idea of a PIR.

 

[mikeey84]

Hi all, thanks for the tip Taylor- will take a look, but the dog, sorry, wife will soon kibosh anything interesting.

Ban- my rather incomplete knowlege of electrics is enough for me to realise that this is notifiable, hence asking here for advice. the B-i-L works 6 days a week at the mo, so just wanted a good idea of what i wanted/how to do it, but i realise that he will have the final say.

Basically, assuming for a mo that the LED lights dont have a plug, could I take a single fused spur from my lighting ring to supply both a cooker hood and lights (i imagine thats similar to asking how long a piece of string is), or would i need separate spurs for them both? Or option C which i dont know about....

 

[PrenticeBoyofDerry]

The requirements allow that circuits can be isolated by a common means, if the condition allow.
But it is something I try to avoid, if possible. You could install two FCU by the side of each other, offering isolation to both cabinet lights and ex-fan.

 

[mikeey84]

Thanks Prentice and Ban, lots of useful things for me to think about.

Just need to beat B&Q down on the price of the ktichen units and we are ready to go.

Keep an eye on the projects tab for an update sometime this year