kitchen zones?

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can anybody tell me if there are zones applicable in kitchens the same way as there are zones in bathrooms?
 
there are no zones in the kitchen as defined in the bathroom, but there is a sink in the kitchen which requires a little more thought electrically
 
thanks pd.

so is there a certain distance from the sink that any sockets or light switches may be?
 
not a specific distance in the regs, but the regs say all equipment must be suitable for the environment in which they are installed. The NIC recommend 300mm from edge of sink, but I would recommend 600mm.
 
so is the idea not being able to have your hand in the sink and be able to touch a socket or light switch aswell?
 
the reason i ask pd is because my mate has just moved into a flat and he is a bit concerned that there is a socket under his sink! situated in a base unit.
this is spurred from a blanked of socket that is well within the 600mm you reccomend.
my question is whether the socket should be removed (being less than 600mm from sink)
also he has asked about the possibility of having some under unit lights underneath the wall cabinet he has either side of the sink.
could these be spurrd off the the blanked off socket to a 3amp fcu?
 
sorry ban, should have made it clearer.
i meant a socket that has got a blanking plate over it.
 
It does not need to be moved from a regulation standpoint, BUT if a little common sense tells you it is getting dripping wet and poses a hazard, then this overrides the minimum requirement of the regs, which is after all just that, a 'minimum' requirement. (Or if its the odd splash, a weatherproof socket in that position might be a sensible compromise)

Is the blanking plate mastic-ed into the wall so as to be splashproof ?- if so its probably OK, if it gets water into the electrical bits, then it should be moved or made watertight too.
 
thanks map.

the blanked off socket is not sealed to the wall. so i will remove the spurred socket from under the sink(doesn't seem right to have one there!) and instead i plan to take a spur off the blank and to a 3amp fcu to feed somme under unit lights.

just a query. if i am going to do the above then what size cable should go from the spur to the fcu? is it 2.5 or 1.0 ?
 
nabby68 said:
just a query. if i am going to do the above then what size cable should go from the spur to the fcu? is it 2.5 or 1.0 ?
This has been debated before. Are you comfortable with the adiabatic equasion vs disconnection times? If not, stick to 2.5mm².
 
nabby68 said:
sorry ban, should have made it clearer.
i meant a socket that has got a blanking plate over it.
I hope you are not being clear, i.e. accurate, now.

Do you really mean a socket with a blanking plate over it, or do you mean that the socket has been removed, and a blanking plate fixed to the box in place of it?

If it's been removed, how have the cables been joined inside the box?
 
i mean a live socket with a blanking plate over it.
and the cables are into choc-blocks.
 
These are sockets:

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These are blanking plates:

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And you insist that you have one of the latter screwed over the top of one of the former.

I give up.
 

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