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Labour and conservatives are on the ropes.

Plus, Reform have to try and chivvy it along, as I reckon they won't last until 2029.
I think the coming months will be interesting, when they have to start putting more meat on the bone or whatever the saying is.

I've not fact checked this, however a rival politician on a news prog the other day was saying Reform's ideas were already at the £100 billion mark (to deliver). This is where they could come unstuck. It's one thing to say 'we'll stop the historic agreement to pay interest to the BoE, that'll save us £20 billion a year' etc etc, it's quite another to deliver on such things.

Btw I made the BoE thing up, however there's something to do with paying interest somewhere, with Reform saying there's absolutely no need to continue doing so.
 
Burnham fancies his chances and would be worse than starmer.
What are you basing this on?

He's done well as mayor of GM. He's started integration of the bus and tram networks and the first phase of integrating the trains is due for completion in 2028.

He has also secured the tram network extension from the current Parrswood terminus into Stockport town centre.
 
One poll had 630 people which is 1 in 100,000 of thd populati
the latest you gov poll was 1874 people

it is the overall methodology that is important not just the sample size


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I think the coming months will be interesting, when they have to start putting more meat on the bone or whatever the saying is.

I've not fact checked this, however a rival politician on a news prog the other day was saying Reform's ideas were already at the £100 billion mark (to deliver). This is where they could come unstuck. It's one thing to say 'we'll stop the historic agreement to pay interest to the BoE, that'll save us £20 billion a year' etc etc, it's quite another to deliver on such things.

Btw I made the BoE thing up, however there's something to do with paying interest somewhere, with Reform saying there's absolutely no need to continue doing so.


IIRC, it is interest on the national debt.

To pay less interest, options are:

- just don't. Would quickly crash the UK to junk status
- reduce the national debt


Reduce the national debt: more taxation, lower public spending ("austerity"), or both.

Take your pick.
 
Nigel Farage, the lies never stop:

he said:
"I bought a house in Clacton"

then he said
"I never bought a house in Clacton"

then he said:
"my partner bought a house in Clacton"

but his partner has on money to buy a house for cash

Mottie says:
"I love him, he is such a wonderful liar"






Liar liar pants on fire Farage
 
I don't really blame folk for thinking about voting Reform. Ok you have to try and maintain a degree of balance about our socioeconomic state, however what do folk see? Failing public services, increasing costs, the immigration debacle etc.
The country is worsening by almost every single metric imaginable. Even if you're not right wing, is it not worth seeing what a new party like Reform can achieve? I will certainly vote for Reform and at the next election hope for a large Reform majority with a Jeremy Corbyn opposition. That's how politics should be done.
 
I am not sure the Tories are on the ropes. They appear to have fallen out of the ring and all of their failed politicians that got us into this mess are defecting to Reform.

Reform must have low standards if they think these failed people who no longer have any support are the people to help them.

Our politics is in a mess, especially when you consider that the only real choices are Labour or Deformed Conservatives.

Labour need to seperate from the far left (Corbyn new party) and become the middle and recognised as the middle. Which is really where most of the working class are nowadays, or should be if they thought about things.
 
Stand by for the re entry of David Milliband to replace Starmer
 
The country is worsening by almost every single metric imaginable.
How do you calculate that?
Even if you're not right wing, is it not worth seeing what a new party like Reform can achieve?
No, they are not how I want my country to be. We fought to be non fascist.
I will certainly vote for Reform
Not surprised
and at the next election hope for a large Reform majority with a Jeremy Corbyn opposition. That's how politics should be done.
Corbyn isn't in power, hasn't even got a party up and running properly yet.

I would like to see him take the extreme left away from labour though. But I think Labour will be the party to fight against, not the offshoot far left.
 
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