Labour and conservatives are on the ropes.

[MNW67]

A robust legal system is not one where teams of lawyers make millions fighting for the rights of illegal non-citizens at taxpayer expense. If the illegals cannot fund their case they should get no aid, just like we'd get no aid if we arrived in any other country illegally (we'd get aid to enter our prison cell but that's about it). In fact, forget that, most UK citizens wouldn't get legal aid in our own country.

Everyone is equal before the law.

 

[Notch7]

Its unfolding exactly as I said it would

 

[Si_]

Everyone is equal before the law.

Really. Do you have a queue of lawyers begging to work for you for free, because I don't.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Everyone is equal before the law.

Only if both parties, have similarly deep pockets.

 

[MNW67]

Really. Do you have a queue of lawyers begging to work for you for free, because I don't.

If I were penniless and being deported from the UK, I believe I would get the same treatment.

 

[fillyboy]

If I were penniless and being deported from the UK, I believe I would get the same treatment.

PMSL

 

[motorbiking]

Everyone is equal before the law.

Not true.

 

[motorbiking]

Ha ha ha

It’s 2025

Next election may not be until 2029

By which time Reform councils will be in a total mess


As Maria Caulfield…..it’s just more evidence Reform is just a Tory sh1t sandwich

Just shows how sh1t Labour are for people to want Reform.

We’ve got a lot more sh1t to come from this disastrous Labour shambles.

 

[Si_]

If I were penniless and being deported from the UK, I believe I would get the same treatment.

It's a moot point because it couldn't happen. But if you're a British citizen, especially male, homeless and on the streets, the best you can expect is a hostel place a few nights a week and food from a community kitchen. No four star hotel for you, no three hot meals a day, no smartphone, and definitely no taxpayer funded lawyers working away to get you a house.

 

[MNW67]

It's a moot point because it couldn't happen. But if you're a British citizen, especially male, homeless and on the streets, the best you can expect is a hostel place a few nights a week and food from a community kitchen. No four star hotel for you, no three hot meals a day, no smartphone, and definitely no taxpayer funded lawyers working away to get you a house.

Do you mean moot point in the British or American sense?

Moving on to the bit in bold. It seems utterly unrelated to the point I was making about the right to test the law in court.

If what you are trying to say is simply that asylum seekers get a different level of support than many young, healthy British citizens, then that is a point I have made more than once myself.

 

[Si_]

Do you mean moot point in the British or American sense?

Moving on to the bit in bold. It seems utterly unrelated to the point I was making about the right to test the law in court.

If what you are trying to say is simply that asylum seekers get a different level of support than many young, healthy British citizens, then that is a point I have made more than once myself.

But that is the law. It's the Immigration and Asylum Act that mandates the government has a duty of care towards illegal immigrants, which includes housing them, whereas no such legislation covers British citizens. That's not equal treatment under law.

 

[MNW67]

But that is the law. It's the Immigration and Asylum Act that mandates the government has a duty of care towards illegal immigrants, which includes housing them, whereas no such legislation covers British citizens. That's not equal treatment under law.

You have misunderstood what equal treatment before the law means. It means equal treatment by the courts and the legal process. It doesn't mean that everyone in the country has to be treated the same in terms of benefits, housing etc.

 

[denso13]

Immigration and Asylum Act that mandates the government has a duty of care towards illegal immigrants

The act doesn't mention duty of care, at all.

 

[Si_]

You have misunderstood what equal treatment before the law means. It means equal treatment by the courts and the legal process. It doesn't mean that everyone in the country has to be treated the same in terms of benefits, housing etc.

No, because the term includes access to legal recourse. If an illegal immigrant were not housed then he would be able challenge that in court (and he would win). A British man would not be able to make a legal challenge in the same situation, because there is no legislation covering his situation despite it being identical to the immigrant's. So they are, by definition, not treated equally under law.

 

[MNW67]

No, because the term includes access to legal recourse. If an illegal immigrant were not housed then he would be able challenge that in court (and he would win). A British man would not be able to make a legal challenge in the same situation, because there is no legislation covering his situation despite it being identical to the immigrant's. So they are, by definition, not treated equally under law.

You need to separate out the two meanings of the word "law". One means legislation. The other means the judicial system.