LEAK CAST IRON BOILER /TAKE ELEMENTS DOWN AND RESEAL ?
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not taking sideok ,I am - I must say I have a lot of sympathy for what Softus is saying .and I even go as far as believe he is right !!!
Now ,back to my boiler : i must say I would like to do everything I can to repair it .It has worked for many years and is still working despite this small leak . I am always suspicious when i hear peole who have an interest telling me I have to change this or that .
Like everybody ,i have witnessed lots of horror stories about new sophisticated boilers and iwould be loath falling into that trap
On the technical side ,would applying some sort of sealing paste on the sides of the cast iron elements help?
and yes ,i have the o rings (right size ,I think ,until the nboiler is taken down !!
Peter
Now ,back to my boiler : i must say I would like to do everything I can to repair it .It has worked for many years and is still working despite this small leak . I am always suspicious when i hear peole who have an interest telling me I have to change this or that .
Like everybody ,i have witnessed lots of horror stories about new sophisticated boilers and iwould be loath falling into that trap
On the technical side ,would applying some sort of sealing paste on the sides of the cast iron elements help?
and yes ,i have the o rings (right size ,I think ,until the nboiler is taken down !!
Peter
In many respects I have sympathy in your quest.
however i think ultimately if you manage to repair it get it back together and it not leak, then im afraid it wont be long before it does it again.
the iron migrates into the water over the years and the casting gets thinner and thinner.
had the same happen myself 4yrs ago while i was away
a right mess. I mean the boiler was only 30yrs old whats wrong these days dont they make anything to last these days 
new worcester and the savings have paid for it.
however i think ultimately if you manage to repair it get it back together and it not leak, then im afraid it wont be long before it does it again.
the iron migrates into the water over the years and the casting gets thinner and thinner.
had the same happen myself 4yrs ago while i was away
a right mess. I mean the boiler was only 30yrs old whats wrong these days dont they make anything to last these days new worcester and the savings have paid for it.
We wouldn't take your boiler on, Pierre.
We rebuilt a commercial Kingfisher last year where the customer had a maintaining lease which was due to expire. We took it on on the basis that it was a gamble, the customer wanted to take a chance.
As it happened, it paid off.
In your case, you have not stated that you plan to move out in the next 12 months. Therefore the economics do not make sense because you are sitting on an old boiler which contrary to your optimism is not likely to see another 5 yrs trouble free motoring.
A better route might be to give us the model ref and if one of us pulls out a dry one you swap it over.
I agree with Softus' sentiments on the dust to dust impact of a new boiler. But I am not convinced the world would be a better place if we were all driving Morris Marinas.
Throwing ones' kitchen and bathroom away every 10 years, and preaching eco this and that while running an AGA (possibly the most wasteful heating appliance ever invented) gets my personal goat.
Thats better
.
We rebuilt a commercial Kingfisher last year where the customer had a maintaining lease which was due to expire. We took it on on the basis that it was a gamble, the customer wanted to take a chance.
As it happened, it paid off.
In your case, you have not stated that you plan to move out in the next 12 months. Therefore the economics do not make sense because you are sitting on an old boiler which contrary to your optimism is not likely to see another 5 yrs trouble free motoring.
A better route might be to give us the model ref and if one of us pulls out a dry one you swap it over.
I agree with Softus' sentiments on the dust to dust impact of a new boiler. But I am not convinced the world would be a better place if we were all driving Morris Marinas.
Throwing ones' kitchen and bathroom away every 10 years, and preaching eco this and that while running an AGA (possibly the most wasteful heating appliance ever invented) gets my personal goat.
Thats better
.
many thnaks ,WDIK and Simond
I understand where you come from and think your point of view is the reasonable one from a financial point of view
Having said that ,what would you do if you were trying to do your best to
make it work a few more years ?
Peter
I understand where you come from and think your point of view is the reasonable one from a financial point of view
Having said that ,what would you do if you were trying to do your best to
make it work a few more years ?
Peter
I'd probably change it, in all honesty.
When you come to sell the house, the buyer will undoubtedly use the old boiler as a negotiating tool to lower your price. Typically they get a boiler man to give them a hefty quote and set this against your asking price.
Also you will get a poor HIPs rating, so all in all, I'd change it for a modern unit. If you want it to last, get a 200 series Viessmann - their top end 300 series was recently dropped by Viessmann UK because they thought there was no market for it. Or if you are very wealthy and have a separate boiler room, get a Kidd. It exceeds the build quality of the kingfisher, was designed around the same time but was/is massively more efficient.
Alternatively, look out for a scrapped kingfisher and swap it out. But this option could fail tomorrow, has no warranty, and is iffey from a building regs perspective.
When you come to sell the house, the buyer will undoubtedly use the old boiler as a negotiating tool to lower your price. Typically they get a boiler man to give them a hefty quote and set this against your asking price.
Also you will get a poor HIPs rating, so all in all, I'd change it for a modern unit. If you want it to last, get a 200 series Viessmann - their top end 300 series was recently dropped by Viessmann UK because they thought there was no market for it. Or if you are very wealthy and have a separate boiler room, get a Kidd. It exceeds the build quality of the kingfisher, was designed around the same time but was/is massively more efficient.
Alternatively, look out for a scrapped kingfisher and swap it out. But this option could fail tomorrow, has no warranty, and is iffey from a building regs perspective.
I would drain it out and take it to bits 
Clean the faces and put it back with new rings, no compound.
You will must likely find the problem is a cracked section though.
Bottom of the forth section on the left is favorite.
Clean the faces and put it back with new rings, no compound.
You will must likely find the problem is a cracked section though.
Bottom of the forth section on the left is favorite.
Ask the manufacturer. Nobody here is going to advise you how to patch up an obsolete boiler.
You'd have to pay a boiler man a lot for attempting the work, plus some new parts, with no guarantee of success. You might get someone to work on that basis, but I doubt it. It certainly isn't something you should be attempting yourself.
Doitall is qualified, experienced and competent to do the job. If you aren't, it would be illegal and silly to try.
You'd have to pay a boiler man a lot for attempting the work, plus some new parts, with no guarantee of success. You might get someone to work on that basis, but I doubt it. It certainly isn't something you should be attempting yourself.
Doitall is qualified, experienced and competent to do the job. If you aren't, it would be illegal and silly to try.
That is also true Chris.
The first that is true, was doitall is qualified and more than capable of stripping the boiler down.
Its also true that for an small domestic boiler such as the kingfisher 100 it is too labour intensive to be be a viable option.
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Whatever work you decide, make sure they lay down dust sheets so not to leave any carbon foot prints around.
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