magnetic water conditioners
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Dunno but have known about scalewatcher for a while now, from about £135
With such high levels of satisfaction, we're so confident that if Scalewatcher doesn't noticeably improve your home within 6 months, we'll offer you your money back.
http://www.scalewatcher.co.uk/
http://www.scalewatcher.co.uk/why-choose-scalewatcher.html
With such high levels of satisfaction, we're so confident that if Scalewatcher doesn't noticeably improve your home within 6 months, we'll offer you your money back.
http://www.scalewatcher.co.uk/
http://www.scalewatcher.co.uk/why-choose-scalewatcher.html
I think some of these scale reducers sound good in theory, but don't always do much.
The Cistermiser 'Combimate' is quite effective. It is plumbed into the incoming cold main. The Siliphos balls inside need changing annually.
http://www.bathroom2u.com/cistermis...p-21327.html?gclid=CPO8tZSyybACFcUmtAodaC8OVg
Some good products on here too, but not sure about prices.
http://www.kinetico.co.uk/?googlead=harvey1
The Cistermiser 'Combimate' is quite effective. It is plumbed into the incoming cold main. The Siliphos balls inside need changing annually.
http://www.bathroom2u.com/cistermis...p-21327.html?gclid=CPO8tZSyybACFcUmtAodaC8OVg
Some good products on here too, but not sure about prices.
http://www.kinetico.co.uk/?googlead=harvey1
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merlin50
Magnets and Magnetic Water Softeners Do Not Work
Plain and simple, we feel these devices are a complete fraud.
'Permanent magnetic water conditioning devices have been marketed based on a variety of claims regarding their effect on water hardness and related scale formation. Tests conducted at Purdue University found ....no significant, beneficial variation in the physical or chemical water quality parameters measured.'
The only feasible ways to soften water in a residential application are with :
Water Softeners
Filtersorb Anti-Scalant Systems
Acid injection
Polyphosphate sequestering.
See the testing as seen on TV
People who sell magnets and other devices are usually selling you something that wont do much for you. To prove it, simply measure the hardness of the water before and after the magnet and you will find no difference.
From a Chemist
I just wanted to say that magnetic water conditioners are a fad device that comes along every 30 years or so and they have never been proven to actually soften water. I browsed through websites of people selling these things and the only scientific evidence that was offered was pretty scanty. As a chemist I can tell you that to 'simply change the size of the water molecule' is not simple, it's impossible. Furthermore, a magnetic field will have little if any effect on water molecules, which have a virtually nonexistent magnetic moment. Other claims I've read about them are that they 'change the ionic charge' or 'alter the ionic activity of water'. This is also malarky.
Now I can conceive of a possibility that they could have an small effect on pipe scaling, since there are electrochemical processes at work there, and the magnets could possibly produce a small electric field somehow, but this would have no effect on water softening, only on adhesion of the materials to pipes. I seem to recall that many places that have large boiler systems use an electrical system that helps prevent pipe scaling, but its a lot more complicated than slapping a permanent magnet around your water pipe.
Plain and simple, we feel these devices are a complete fraud.
'Permanent magnetic water conditioning devices have been marketed based on a variety of claims regarding their effect on water hardness and related scale formation. Tests conducted at Purdue University found ....no significant, beneficial variation in the physical or chemical water quality parameters measured.'
The only feasible ways to soften water in a residential application are with :
Water Softeners
Filtersorb Anti-Scalant Systems
Acid injection
Polyphosphate sequestering.
See the testing as seen on TV
People who sell magnets and other devices are usually selling you something that wont do much for you. To prove it, simply measure the hardness of the water before and after the magnet and you will find no difference.
From a Chemist
I just wanted to say that magnetic water conditioners are a fad device that comes along every 30 years or so and they have never been proven to actually soften water. I browsed through websites of people selling these things and the only scientific evidence that was offered was pretty scanty. As a chemist I can tell you that to 'simply change the size of the water molecule' is not simple, it's impossible. Furthermore, a magnetic field will have little if any effect on water molecules, which have a virtually nonexistent magnetic moment. Other claims I've read about them are that they 'change the ionic charge' or 'alter the ionic activity of water'. This is also malarky.
Now I can conceive of a possibility that they could have an small effect on pipe scaling, since there are electrochemical processes at work there, and the magnets could possibly produce a small electric field somehow, but this would have no effect on water softening, only on adhesion of the materials to pipes. I seem to recall that many places that have large boiler systems use an electrical system that helps prevent pipe scaling, but its a lot more complicated than slapping a permanent magnet around your water pipe.
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Hi merlin50, well I asked for answers and I think you have given me the most comprehensive answer I could have asked for, I have always been sceptical of the claims made but after a plumber mate (now retired) of mine had one fitted by British Gas (which he feels works) at between £150 & £200 I started to wonder but I was still not convinced and after reading your answer I know why, Thanks Reg
This is what always crossed my mind, the magnet thingy got a lot of work to do specially with the speed of the water in the pipe to control I would've thought.
However scalewatcher are the only company giving money back guarantee if you're not happy in under 6 mths, what is there to lose or is there a catch?
The magnetic scale reducers do not remove the limescale or soften the water. They simpy reduce the amount of scale that sticks to the insides of pipes and to taps, showerheads etc.
if you want to soften the water then you need a proper water softener plumbed into the incoming mains. These dont come cheap however.
if you want to soften the water then you need a proper water softener plumbed into the incoming mains. These dont come cheap however.
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peaps2
They work by protecting you pipes etc but don't soften the water.
http://www.eastmidlandswater.com/Details.asp?ProductID=1074
Had one fitted two years ago and it works very well.
http://www.eastmidlandswater.com/Details.asp?ProductID=1074
Had one fitted two years ago and it works very well.
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peaps2
We had it fitted to soften the water after the washing machine clogged, not had the problem since. Have no clue about any other products, sorry.
Oh the boiler is clear also.. Expensive but the cost of repair to appliances is a troubled area was worth it in the end..
Oh the boiler is clear also.. Expensive but the cost of repair to appliances is a troubled area was worth it in the end..
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