Mandatory ID cards (Brit Card) to be announced tomorrow

[Si_]

Its so tedious being lectured about IT by people whose computer skills are best summarised by Zoolander clips.

I forgot, you did a course and you have 'IT' in your username. An expert of world renown!

 

[IT Minion]

I forgot, you did a course and you have 'IT' in your username. An expert of world renown!

MBK knows enough to be dangerous, getting confused between concepts but not getting the details right. You don't seem to even know ow that much.

 

[motorbiking]

MBK knows enough to be dangerous, getting confused between concepts but not getting the details right. You don't seem to even know ow that much.

Most of my career has been advising and advising on Software firms, I know a thing or two about Identity Management. You seem to have come from an end user background.

But it's easy to show the flaws that a mandatory digital ID will have.

1) Do you agree that a single mandatory ID, that everyone is required to have will be the default ID for all forms of ID
2) With a single ID, identity theft becomes easier, because you will not need to compromise multiple forms of ID
3) If one ID is the official form of ID, how will someone who has had their ID compromised, recover it?
4) with one ID for everything, do you agree the prize is bigger for those committing ID fraud.

I can go on, but these are fairly big flaws.

 

[Mottie]

Will those arriving illegally by dinghy be given one or any form of checking who they are and where they came from?

 

[IT Minion]

Most of my career has been advising and advising on Software firms, I know a thing or two about Identity Management. You seem to have come from an end user background.

But it's easy to show the flaws that a mandatory digital ID will have.

1) Do you agree that a single mandatory ID, that everyone is required to have will be the default ID for all forms of ID
2) With a single ID, identity theft becomes easier, because you will not need to compromise multiple forms of ID
3) If one ID is the official form of ID, how will someone who has had their ID compromised, recover it?
4) with one ID for everything, do you agree the prize is bigger for those committing ID fraud.

I can go on, but these are fairly big flaws.

1. No. Government ID yes.
2. No.
3. How do you do it now?
4. No meaningful difference.

Youre arguing that multiple passwords are more secure than one password. Go check with your industry contacts on what they think of that.

Real wold security breaches often involve escalation of privilege, you get into one system and then work your way up. It's not a blockchain of trust, it's a web where the weakest link unravells everything.

 

[IT Minion]

The actual real risks to the system are that it would be a single point of failure. And while it would only be a second tier system (Azure, Google, Amazon manage billions of identities) even the big ones do fail.

So when this goes down you wouldn't be able to prove it's your NHS number, access your tax return or request a new physical passport. Or more meaningfully, not be able to update your UC details, or have your age verified for buying paracetamol. Open a new bank account.

The scary one for people is having someone impersonate you. Bank accounts, credit cards, UC fraud. That's harder when the ID is linked to your real details. That's harder to hide if you get a notification whenever a new authentication event occurs. This makes fraud harder.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

I wonder why Blair has pushed so hard for Digital ID ?

It’s almost like he’s got a vested interest in it…

Even Sunak could learn a think or 2 from the war criminal

 

[Highway Man]

Its so tedious being lectured about IT by people whose computer skills are best summarised by Zoolander clips.

You will find plenty of experts on here who have never left their bedrooms yet are willing to lecture you in your field.

 

[ellal]

I wonder why Blair has pushed so hard for Digital ID ?

It’s almost like he’s got a vested interest in it…

Even Sunak could learn a think or 2 from the war criminal

"The Government was tonight (Sept 27th) embroiled in a cronyism row as it emerged Tony Blair secretly lobbied for his billionaire backer who could make millions of pounds from Labour's controversial digital ID cards.

Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal the former prime minister urged Business Secretary Peter Kyle to consult a technology institute founded by his friend Larry Ellison in a private meeting last year.

Mr Ellison, the world's second richest man, has donated or pledged a staggering £257million for the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change.

He founded the Ellison Institute of Technology (EIT), a research centre in Oxford, and is chairman of tech giant Oracle, which has a £700million IT deal with four Whitehall departments.

Experts say Oracle is now in pole position to profit from plans to force millions of adults to sign up for a digital ID card"

And that's just one example!

 

[aveatry]

Looks like the petition is slowing down

Petition: Do not introduce Digital ID cards

We demand that the UK Government immediately commits to not introducing a digital ID cards. There are reports that this is being looked at.

petition.parliament.uk

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Most of my career has been advising and advising on Software firms, I know a thing or two about Identity Management. You seem to have come from an end user background.

But it's easy to show the flaws that a mandatory digital ID will have.

1) Do you agree that a single mandatory ID, that everyone is required to have will be the default ID for all forms of ID
2) With a single ID, identity theft becomes easier, because you will not need to compromise multiple forms of ID
3) If one ID is the official form of ID, how will someone who has had their ID compromised, recover it?
4) with one ID for everything, do you agree the prize is bigger for those committing ID fraud.

I can go on, but these are fairly big flaws.

What's the old saying, something like the criminals are always one step ahead of the law?

If I'm told by government these cards are 100% secure, can't be hacked, can't be cloned, I will believe them.

Oops sorry, I mistyped, I mean I won't believe them

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I wonder why Blair has pushed so hard for Digital ID ?

It’s almost like he’s got a vested interest in it…

Even Sunak could learn a think or 2 from the war criminal

Is the tech giant who gave Blair £257m in line for ID card contract?

Documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal the former PM urged Business Secretary Peter Kyle to consult a technology institute founded by his friend Larry Ellison in a private meeting last year.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Notch7]

Will those arriving illegally by dinghy be given one or any form of checking who they are and where they came from?

They are all checked

You can’t get asylum without it

 

[Knave of Hearts]

They are all checked

You can’t get asylum without it

Mottie thinks they're given a handshake and allowed to go on their way 10 minutes after arriving.

Next he'll be claiming their RNLI taxi fare will be reimbursed if they produce a receipt.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

A bit OT, but if I were forced to live in another country I'd choose Slovenia. They know how to handle illegals, firmly but fairly. 47,000 illegals turned up at the border in 2024: 42,000 were deported, 5000 applied for asylum, 150 were granted. Partly as a consequence they have very low crime, a high standard of living, low cost of living, cheaper housing, no overcrowding, better nationalised healthcare, better education, less pollution, the list goes on. It's a fantastic country.

I go to Czech Republic quite a lot, and everything you describe is also true there. Even the Capital Prague is mostly caucasian. It's quite a revelation and disproves the lie that liberals and politicians continually use that mass migration is needed. It's not if you encourage your own people to have enough children.