Mandatory ID cards (Brit Card) to be announced tomorrow

SpiderTrev said:
according to uswitch "As of 2024, 96% of the UK population were mobile phone users, equivalent to more than 66 million people" which leaves 2.75 million people that are not mobile phone users.
according to Pew Research Centre there are an estimated 800,000 to 1.2 million illegal immigrants living in uk, and according to the home office "last year, 7,130 people were arrested on suspicion of working illegally". that is just suspicion, not actual convictions.
so the goal is to take 2.75 million people out of work (of course some of those are retired) in order to stop at least 7,130 people from working illegally, but at the very highest extreme, 1.2 million, assuming every illegal immigrant is working. 1.2 million is of course extreme and nowhere near the number that will actually be working.

sources:
www.uswitch.com

UK Mobile Phone Statistics 2025 - Stats Report - Uswitch

We’ve collated the latest UK mobile phone statistics and trends for 2025, covering mobile phone ownership statistics, hours spent on the phone and more.
www.uswitch.com www.uswitch.com
theweek.com

How many people are working illegally in the UK?

Government vows 'nationwide blitz' on illicit workforce believed to number in the hundreds of thousands
theweek.com theweek.com
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The under 4s make up 3.5 million people. I guess they won't be able to use the app.
 
IT Minion said:
So no change..

Except they'd need to compromise your password to log in and your 2FA device and stop you getting any of the notifications that get sent out when that's done. And pass the facial scan needed to reassign the 2fa, which I strongly suspect they keep a record of.

Oh and you'd be able to look back at all the transactions and point out they were made using compromised credentials and prove they were fraudulent.

The potential scale of the damage is large, but at the same time the current security for virtually all of those services is far lower.

Also it is far from certain the various commercial companies will be chosen to or even be allowed to make use of this ID service for routine authentication. Wearing my EA hat id advise against it.
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Enterprise Architects tend not to be involved in commercial decisions.

What company wouldn’t choose to delegate responsibility for key customer security infrastructure to the government.

Just think of all the EAs they could save.

“Not our fault it’s a government system”.
 
motorbiking said:
Enterprise Architects tend not to be involved in commercial decisions.

What company wouldn’t choose to delegate responsibility for key customer security infrastructure to the government.

Just think of all the EAs they could save.

“Not our fault it’s a government system”.
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If you're doing it right then they should be.

The government shouldn't offer it. It'd be making the infrastructure at least an order of magnitude bigger, probably two, and taking on reputational and systematic risks for negligible benefit to the government itself.

Apple, Google, Facebook and Microsoft offer that sort of service it, but they do it to try to lure you into their infrastructure. It's a loss leader. The government doesn't need that.
 
aveatry said:
face scan app with 8gb ram. So any phone 2, 3 years old will struggle and 8 GB ram you are talking a £200 phone
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Are you sure about that?

8GB ram for just that and considering its a mobile phone.

Source please.
 
IT Minion said:
The under 4s make up 3.5 million people. I guess they won't be able to use the app.
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it says over 16s. i did link the sources, you can read it all for yourself. obviously you wouldn't count 4 year olds in a study of who uses mobile phones. though i do understand your confusion
 
IT Minion said:
Given people here can seemingly barely operate technology as advanced as wax crayons I dont trust you or them to understand that to be sarcastic statement.
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why do you always hide behind insults? does it make you feel smart? it doesn't make you look very smart
 
noseall said:
Aveatry?
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Well, I deliberately placed the ball in his court to observe how he would manage the situation though, given that his name is “aveatry” albeit misspelled, I did expect him to stumble a bit.
 
so much hate here :( i pity you guys.
i said i would stay out of the general section but yet somehow i found myself back here hahah. i was weak. i am going to be better.
i love you all and i hope you can all find some light in your lives <3
 
Jurassicspark said:
Are you sure about that?

8GB ram for just that and considering its a mobile phone.

Source please.
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Unlike you it seems I do have better things to do sometimes

This is what google said
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aveatry said:
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Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure what kind of face ID app they are talking about but if they are talking about the average face ID app which only scans your face and simply verifies then, initially, they mention a minimum requirement of Android 11, but then state that the app will still function with versions down to Android 11. I'm still not convinced that 6GB of RAM should be considered the minimum, or that 8GB is recommended.

What’s even more questionable is the emphasis on 8GB of RAM or higher.
 
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