National Grooming Gangs Inquiry Announced

[Deleted member 317777]

The only conclusion is that there is a prevalence of Pakistani grooming gangs in Yorkshire and Manchester.
No surprise there.

Why no surprise?

He won’t answer, more tosh

 

[Mottie]

Why are the Reform party, Tories, Tommy Robinson and other right wing grifters so obsessed with Asian grooming gangs?

Is it

A) because they care about the victims
Or
B) because they want to ramp up hatred of ethnic minority groups


If it’s A) what efforts have Farage etc made to help and support the victims?

I think it’s more the option you are deliberately not considering, mainly that people want to expose the complicity of police and local authorities in covering up their protection of certain ethnicities.

 

[fillyboy]

I hate it when the 'far right' turn out to be, er, 'right'.

 

[denso13]

I think it’s more the option you are deliberately not considering, mainly that people want to expose the complicity of police and local authorities in covering up their protection of certain ethnicities.

I don't think they were simply trying to protect them. Whatever the reason, maybe they didn't want the work involved, or perhaps were scared of the repercussions, it was wrong, and called out years ago. Some think only brown people do it, and some are pointing out that all ethnicities do it. That's all.

 

[MNW67]

I don't think they were simply trying to protect them. Whatever the reason, maybe they didn't want the work involved, or perhaps were scared of the repercussions, it was wrong, and called out years ago. Some think only brown people do it, and some are pointing out that all ethnicities do it. That's all.

I think it was a mixture of things. With social workers and other council workers it was a concern about not being seen as racist. We know this from all the previous enquiries. With police it was about not taking it seriously and general shoddiness.

 

[denso13]

I think it was a mixture of things. With social workers and other council workers it was a concern about not being seen as racist. We know this from all the previous enquiries. With police it was about not taking it seriously and general shoddiness.

Yes, and reported years ago.

 

[motorbiking]

Nonsense.
The Casey report says the % figures are not to be relied upon. It may turn out there are even greater numbers of white gang rapists.

No she says the figures/conclusions for CSA/CSE crimes that you and Denso keep posting are flawed. She does not say at all that it may turn out there are even greater numbers of white gang rapists, that is something you just made up.

With over two thirds of ethnicity data missing for perpetrators in the VKPP report and nearly two thirds missing in COCAD, it is not possible to draw any conclusions on the representation of ethnic groups amongst perpetrators from this published data set.

That is pretty clear. Sorry you wasted your time posting rubbish for dozens of pages. I did try to tell you

She does not say the same when referring to the reports that I was referring to when I made my correct claim that it .It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs.
There are plenty of official reports confirming this Of these report she has a different conclusion.

The only conclusion is that there is a prevalence of Pakistani grooming gangs in Yorkshire and Manchester.
No surprise there.

Again that is incorrect, they have identified a prevalence of non-white British men in detailed analysis:

ten involved perpetrators of predominantly Asian or Pakistani ethnicity (in Buckinghamshire, Bradford, Calderdale, Derby, Oxfordshire, Peterborough, three cases in Rochdale, and Rotherham); one case involved perpetrators predominantly from a range of ethnic minority backgrounds including Pakistani, Bangladeshi, Indian, Iranian, Iraqi, Kurdish, Turkish, Albanian and Eastern European (in Newcastle); one case involved Black perpetrators (in West Sussex); one involved Turkish perpetrators (in Somerset); one involved Somali perpetrators (in Bristol); and

Only one involved White perpetrators (in Torbay).

In addition to these Serious Case Reviews, other high profile prosecutions of which we are aware, include: Barrow-in-Furness, Blackburn with Darwen, Burnley, Carlisle, Chelmsford, Coventry, Craven, East Staffordshire, Ipswich, Kirklees, Leicester, Middlesbrough, Nottingham, Plymouth, Sheffield, Telford and Wrekin and Wirral. These cases indicate a wide geographical spread of cases involving Asian/Pakistani perpetrators across the country.

Obviously not isolated to Rotherham and Manchester.

As I said earlier, it's important to read and understand the Casey report. The fact that some keep posting discredited opinions and data tables is evidence that their either haven't read it, didn't, understand it or are dishonestly trolling with information they know is incorrect.

 

[noseall]

No she says the figures/conclusions for CSA/CSE crimes that you and Denso keep posting are flawed

Flawed? Nonsense. She merely says the data is not robust enough to from conclusions. They may (or may not) show a spike in Manchester and Yorkshire regards Pakistani grooming gangs.
Unlikely to change the fact that rape gangs are (vastly) majority white British.

Again that is incorrect, they have identified a prevalence of non-white British men in detailed analysis:

Detailed analysis? Utter bollax. The audit does no such thing.

 

[motorbiking]

Flawed? Nonsense. She merely says the data is not robust enough to from conclusions. They may 9or may not) show a spike in Manchester and Yorkshire.
Unlikely to change the fact that rape gangs are (vastly) majority white British.


Detailed analysis? Utter bollax. The audit does no such thing.

Its fairly clear you haven't read it and understood it.

She goes further than saying the data is not robust to form conclusions, she actually accuses those who made conclusions of having an agenda.

Read Chapter 6. Denial

 

[noseall]

I hate it when the 'far right' turn out to be, er, 'right'.

When you have Olympic standard liars on the team like MBK, trans and Trump doling out the 'facts' how could you possibly, ever be wrong.

Lol.

 

[noseall]

Its fairly clear you haven't read it and understood it.

I have read it. Where is this detailed analysis?

Where is the 'flawed data' statement?

 

[motorbiking]

I have read it. Where is this detailed analysis?

Where is the 'flawed data' statement?

page 9, page 121-122

Senior officials in the police, local authorities and other agencies writing in reports or in public statements to the media conclude from the flawed available data that the majority of group-based child sexual exploitation offending is committed by White perpetrators or that the ethnic profile is ‘mixed’. Some also portray or even dismiss concerns about Asian offenders as either a ‘media coverage’ issue or ‘historical offending’, which risks detracting attention from all types of child sexual abuse. This is misleading. The seniority of the officials making these statements also makes it far more difficult for frontline staff to feel they can challenge them.

 

[noseall]

She goes further than saying the data is not robust to form conclusions, she actually accuses those who made conclusions of having an agenda.

Interesting opinion. I'm sure the HO will be thrilled to hear that.

None of the audit states that that the current data is flawed. It merely states that it is not robust enough to from conclusions.

 

[motorbiking]

When you have Olympic standard liars on the team like MBK, trans and Trump doling out the 'facts' how could you possibly, ever be wrong.

Lol.

the only one telling lies is you

Interesting opinion. I'm sure the HO will be thrilled to hear that.

None of the audit states that that the current data is flawed. It merely states that it is not robust enough to from conclusions.

Chapter 6 is clear. Your pants are on fire.

Instead of examination, we have seen obfuscation. In a vacuum, incomplete and unreliable data is used to suit the ends of those presenting it.

Obfuscation to suit the ends of those presenting it. Thats our Nosenout.

 

[noseall]

page 9, page 121-122

Senior officials in the police, local authorities and other agencies writing in reports or in public statements to the media conclude from the flawed available data that the majority of group-based child sexual exploitation offending is committed by White perpetrators or that the ethnic profile is ‘mixed’. Some also portray or even dismiss concerns about Asian offenders as either a ‘media coverage’ issue or ‘historical offending’, which risks detracting attention from all types of child sexual abuse. This is misleading. The seniority of the officials making these statements also makes it far more difficult for frontline staff to feel they can challenge them.

Media reports?

Perhaps if they had spoken to Richard Fewkes (Hydrant programme) they may have got a better idea. 2023 83% of rape gangs = white. First 3/4 2024 85% rape gangs = white.


"...It is not white British males committing the majority of rape abuse against kids, via rape gangs. There are plenty of official reports confirming this and I have posted them for the forum idiots to appraise themselves of...."

Lies.