By taking away the decision from the driver to drive within the prescribed speed limits as some just cannot do it or may not agree with the limit. That technology exists for car manufacturers to add that capability to their vehicles and could be utilised to limit the speed of the car to the speed limit of the road.
There is lots of money spent on promoting the myth, sponsoring positive research etc there is no doubt of that. But the simple thing you'd expect to change, is the percentage of people killed when hit on urban roads and total fatalities for the country. Neither have changed trajectory."There is now evidence from 20mph implementation within the UK which
finds a statistically significant reduction in casualties compared to background levels.
Importantly, such findings triangulate with the evidence on speed reduction and
collision reduction. The fact that for each average 1mph speed reduction in an urban
area there is a 6% reduction in collisions fits well with the findings from the UK
studies reported here.
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For casualty reduction the evidence is consistent that casualties are reduced
as a result of 20mph speed limits. The evidence is moderate to strong."
And insurers, who tend to be statistics-based and pretty risk averse are starting to reduce premiums for drivers who live in or near 20mph areas.
Why the 20mph limit is reducing your car insurance premium
A car insurance company has said that there is clear evidence that the policy is workingwww.walesonline.co.uk
How much "flows back to TfL"? Does it create an operating surplus, or just partially offset the costs of enforcement?
Covid made a big difference there is no denying that keeping people off roads saves lives.So?
Yes.
And....?
Better law enforcement. Do you object to that?
You might be so fooled if you for some reason failed to read this:
Comparing 2024 to the 2010-14 baseline, there has been noteworthy progress:
• 19 per cent (26) fewer people were killed
• 24 per cent (1,162) fewer people were killed or seriously injured, the lowest number on record outside of pandemic-affected 2020 and 2021
• 47 per cent (169) fewer children under 16 were killed or seriously injured
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In 2024 there were ...14 per cent fewer motorcyclists were killed (down from
21 in 2023 to 18). People motorcycling account for an estimated four per cent of
vehicle kilometres travelled (based on 2024 figures from the Department for
Transport road traffic statistics) but 16 per cent of people killed.
If you want to be less fooled by the people telling you lies about 20mph speed limits because of their ideological bias, you could look at this:
Powerful new long-term TfL research shows 20mph speed limits save lives on London's roads
Powerful new long-term TfL research shows 20mph speed limits save lives on London’s roadstfl.gov.uk
Insurance companies don't make risk decisions based upon myth.
better to not be hit by someone who braked sooner, because they were more engaged in the process.
No they base it on factors like the cost of repairs, availability of parts, price of metal, changes in personal injury claims, reductions in fraud etc. its all there if you google it.
I have.
Sure thing
Do what?
Reduce pollution?!?!
Exactly.
If you had an electric vehicle then it wouldn't be a problem, would it?Sure thing
Do what?
Reduce pollution?!?!
I am no expert, but my experience is this: my former automatic gearbox won't engage third gear until car is over 23/24mph. So going at 20mph the engine is revving at 1300rpm. At 24mph it revs at 1000rpm.
Isn't the engine polluting more at 1300rpm?
Exactly.
At 20mph, almost everywhere here in west London, I see many drivers playing with their phones and even watch movies.
Too slow is not safer because the same drivers would be paying attention to the road if going at 30, so a pedestrian jumping on the road could be easily avoided.
Better not to be hit than be hit at 20mph.
Fair point. but that only covers the pollution part.
In all the study statistics you bizarrely choose to ignore.
That’ll be Comrade Khan's statistics. He likes putting out figures that show him in a good light. That’s why he refused to put out figures showing the so-called reduction in pollution in his expanded ULEZ zones before the mayoral election.
And yet none of these appear in the national and long term numbers which have been posted. Odd isn’t it.
Some people are daft enough to believe them.
