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Supply to the lodge we stayed in - India, perfectly safe, I used the wifes hairbrush to switch the lights
 
Supply to the lodge we stayed in - India, perfectly safe, I used the wifes hairbrush to switch the lights
 
OK upload_2021-12-31_16-37-22.png is that any better, with outdoor socket?
 
Didn't we used to use those sort of principles before the elf'n safety mob went crazy.
Today's generation expects everyone else to look after them and blame (and sue) anyone they can find when things go wrong.
If we keep avoiding Darwin's "Theory or Idiocy and Technical Evolutionary Elimination" (TITEE) we'll end up as a race unable to think for themselves


Probably, before I was born (I'm only early 30s.) Some aspects we have gone too far... e.g. risk assessments for a charity egg and spoon race! Much of it is probably to form protection against legal issues. However my Dad tells me stories from his first jobs working in the 1960s, of blokes losing digits and even arms working on the old saws in the furniture factories. Working in a shirt and tie, sleeves rolled up, no ear defenders, etc.

Think there needs to be a fine balance between the two. The Dutch do it well; I remember people working on the roads by digging trenches. The only warning was a small barrier -- talking in the pub later that day, the sentiment seemed to be "well you can see the hole there, don't walk into it...". Over here I can imagine exclusion zones, 10 signs, a bloke in high-vis.
 
Probably, before I was born (I'm only early 30s.) Some aspects we have gone too far... e.g. risk assessments for a charity egg and spoon race! Much of it is probably to form protection against legal issues. However my Dad tells me stories from his first jobs working in the 1960s, of blokes losing digits and even arms working on the old saws in the furniture factories. Working in a shirt and tie, sleeves rolled up, no ear defenders, etc.
.... Think there needs to be a fine balance between the two. ...
Indeed so, and I think that 'fine balance' comes down to what I generally describe as 'common sense'.

In terms of making sensible decisions on behalf of society as whole, there is a problem relating to the fact that attitudes to risk vary dramatically between different individual members of society - for example, we have at least one 'regular' in this forum (and at least one 'close second') who is extremely 'risk averse', whereas others are much more accepting of the fact that 'life is full of risks'. That means that when the decision-maker is 'the State', it will never be possible to 'please all of the people or all of the time'.

I am more than double your age, and many of the 'risks' which were accepted as part of life in my youth would (probably reasonably) probably be considered as 'unthinkable' these days, but it is only too easy to find examples of the 'Nanny State' having moved in the other direction to an arguably 'silly' extent.

Most people presumably agree with me (and you) that there is somewhere a 'sensible compromise' between the extremes, but many of us probably feel that 'we' have in many cases already moved unreasonably in the 'risk-averse' direction.

Kind Regards, John
 
It's been bugging me all day...what would he want to plug in down there? (Remember that this is a family forum!).
 
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