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Philip Green did nothing wrong but paid people £1million each.

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  1. Brigadier

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    Could they not be?
    E.g. attacking someone not because they were black, but because they happened to be in front of him at the time.
     
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    So do you think Spacey is a sexual predator who abused his fame and power, or a misandrist? Because going by your logic with Green, he is a misandrist. Which, quite frankly, is ******s.

    The below makes more sense and I have no idea why your logic doesn't apply to Green.
    He's a bully, a knob and perhaps even a sexual predator, but I do believe he thinks he is untouchable. But there, as you put it with Spacey, is no evidence that he is a misogynist.
     
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    Would misogyny cover the objectification of women?
     
  5. EFLImpudence

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    Why are you asking? Do you not know what hate means?

    Does the objectification of women mean you hate them?
    What about the objectification of men?
     
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    Objectification of either sex is kind of to dehumanise them. It doesn't mean to hate them, just to take away the person as a whole.
     
  7. SirGalahad

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    You need calm down. The meaning of words change over time.

    An Australian dictionary has changed its definition of misogyny to reflect the fact that it is now used to mean 'entrenched prejudice against women', and not just hatred.
     
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    The Australians bastardise words so frequently, they should hardly be held up as the guardians of (lexicography?)
     
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    So - it's wrong then.

    That people use words incorrectly does not change the meaning.

    I frequently use the example of "my living room is infested with giraffes coming in under the skirting board". I have only used one word incorrectly but this is considered silly because everyone knows the difference between giraffes and ants.

    That people do not actually know the meaning of the "miso" prefix and are conditioned by other people using it incorrectly unintentionally or to intentionally exaggerate the seriousness of the behaviour (like antisemitic) does not alter the meaning.
     
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    Who isn't calm?
     
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    EFL. He really gets upset over how words are used. Was he an English teacher in a past life? :mrgreen:
     
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    But you have to accept that the meaning of a word is not immutable. It can change over time.

     
  13. Brigadier

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    Nothing wrong with stating the case for the correct use of words. They are the tools by which much of society operates efficiently.

    You get vexed over economics: did you used to be an economics teacher?
     
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    I am referring to etymology of words. The meaning of words can and do change over time.

    So lets get on the same hymn sheet. (y)
     
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    Only because of mistakes or misuse.

    The alternative is that you use words incorrectly on purpose or intentionally decide to change the meaning - why would anyone do either?



    As for the video - explaining past errors for which it is too late is not really of any help.
     
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