Pipe inserts sticking in speedfit elbows

[WillB77]

After disassembling a couple of elbow joints to perfect the pipe lengths / layout, the pipe inserts have stayed in the elbow. I've pulled the collet but they're not coming out. Any ideas?

 

[seco services]

useally a pair of long nose pliers grips and gets them out.

 

[muggles]

Alternatively, unscrew the fitting all the way so it's dismantled, they're easy to get out then. Just make sure you put it back together properly afterwards...

 

[doitall]

Or cut the pipe the right length first time.

You run the risk of damaging the O ring every time you push it together, as well as leaving a score in the pipe where the seal will be.

 

[Softus]

Any ideas?

Use Hep2o instead of Speedfit.

 

[blondini]

Alternatively, just leave them in.
The pipe will still push over them when reconnecting. Just make sure that you push it fully home of course.

 

[Softus]

Alternatively, just leave them in.
The pipe will still push over them when reconnecting.

Note that one of the functions of the insert is to ease the O ring over the otherwise blunt end of the pipe - pushing the pipe in without the sleeve on risks damaging the O ring.

 

[frustratedpunter]

get some gash pipe. chamfer then smooth the outside circumference of the pipe, then cut off ~12mm of pipe.

Push your short length of pipe into fitting, over the insert, using spare pipe to push it home over insert and thru O-ring

Withdraw spare pipe, compress collet, grasp protruding end of insert with longnose and it should come out easily without knackering O-ring

Nick

 

[doitall]

get some gash pipe. chamfer then smooth the outside circumference of the pipe, then cut off ~12mm of pipe.

Push your short length of pipe into fitting, over the insert, using spare pipe to push it home over insert and thru O-ring

Withdraw spare pipe, compress collet, grasp protruding end of insert with longnose and it should come out easily without knackering O-ring

Nick

Why !!!!!!!!! just unscrew the nut and take the insert out

 

[blondini]

Alternatively, just leave them in.
The pipe will still push over them when reconnecting.

Note that one of the functions of the insert is to ease the O ring over the otherwise blunt end of the pipe - pushing the pipe in without the sleeve on risks damaging the O ring.

Good point. I was thinking of avoiding potential damage when withdrawing the insert if it doesn't come out with the pipe. The inserts aren't shaped to ease over the O ring when withdrawing.

 

[blondini]

get some gash pipe. chamfer then smooth the outside circumference of the pipe, then cut off ~12mm of pipe.

Push your short length of pipe into fitting, over the insert, using spare pipe to push it home over insert and thru O-ring

Withdraw spare pipe, compress collet, grasp protruding end of insert with longnose and it should come out easily without knackering O-ring

Nick

Why !!!!!!!!! just unscrew the nut and take the insert out

Unless they've changed the design, you can't 'unscrew the nut' on Speedfit.

 

[doitall]

Haven't seen one of them from years even though they're still made

 

[seco services]

http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/plumbingpusfit measure.jpg

these ones still come apart.

 

[WillB77]

These are the ones

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/57953/Plumbing/Push-Fit-Fittings/JG-Speedfit-Elbow-15mm-Pack-of-10

 

[seco services]

they unscrew