Polite Question

[Dan Robinson]

Can you pro's please answer me this one...


When a plumber/heating guy takes clips/brackets off the wall to allow for plastering and skimming, why do plasterers insist on taking the marker screws out and leaving a pristine coating and absolutely no fricking clue as to where the damn holes are?


Oh, and damn you lot are messy

 

[noseall]

A selfish idiot would do this because it makes life easier for the idiot.

If the idiot were in charge of the entire contract he would then realise the cost and agro he has brought upon himself by doing this.

Sadly, a lot of plasterers have scarpered long before things require fixing back...."Hu, not my problem now guv".

I have to add though, the cost and agro element has to be a balanced one. Rad bracket screws should deffo be left in , however it may take the plasterer longer in time to fuss around a lot of clip screws than it takes the plumber to re-drill some new ones, particularly as he is already having to plaster behind the pipes as well.

One other thing is if you are a bit overzealous with your swinging trowel it is possible to nick the blade on a screw and this can be a right royal pain. You would have to be going at it like a twonk though!

Life is all about.....Karma.

 

[noseall]

EDITED.

Double bubble. Seems to be happening a lot on DIY-not lately!

 

[joe-90]

If you want a pristine finish - then that is what you have to do. It only takes a minute to re-drill a hole. Stop whining.

 

[1john]

either the plumber has to drill four holes for a radiator or the plasterer has to spend 20 mins mincing about around a load of screws and its not so easy to get a pristine finish

 

[noseall]

either the plumber has to drill four holes for a radiator or the plasterer has to spend 20 mins mincing about around a load of screws and its not so easy to get a pristine finish

Wrong.

The location of the rad brackets, in a lot of cases has to be a very precise one particularly if the pipes are concreted in, i.e. no play in the pipes. It takes a long time, a lot of faffing and the risk of the drill slipping and messing up the original (covered) rad screws.

No, i'm sorry but only a blind moron would remove the screws and plaster over the screw holes in this instance. Try fitting the rad back yourself and decide then.

Also a pristine finish is not so important at the back of the rad although i can manage one with or without screws.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Holes often have to be millimetre perfect. You can't drill holes next to holes. And in the case of my kitchen there were carefully placed pipe clips running adjacent to electrical cables.

Trying to lines it all up afterwards is a fricking nightmare and can take a lot more than a minute... Indeed 20.

Not whining at all we just charge the extra time with "due to plasterer" on that line. Would rather not have to though

 

[Dan Robinson]

Can be real fun when the rad weighs 40 kilos

 

[slapper]

Can be real fun when the rad weighs 40 kilos

Its cos theyre lazy thick gets and have no respect for any other trade.

Mind you, its the only time they can screw a hole up with a float

 

[gigz]

I ALWAYS say leave at least one screw in, or i chip 10 times more plaster than i have to

 

[Homesafe]

If you want a pristine finish - then that is what you have to do. It only takes a minute to re-drill a hole. Stop whining.

Why would they want a pristine finish behind the rad where no one will ever see it??

 

[ukrobj]

Mark holes, file top of screw to take plating off, screw all the way in and let plasterer skim over the top, by the time the plaster sets they have started to rust, leaving nice little marks. Gently unscrew (after scoring with a stanley around the screw)

Tada.

 

[Homesafe]

Why make life easier for them Rob

 

[ukrobj]

Why make life easier for them Rob

Got apprentice to do it once, he didn't file it flat, when plasterer went over it, it scored his pride and joy. Oppsy

 

[Skimmers]

unsrew the brackets and put in a match stick or a thin straw job done