Poss To Add Radial Circuit To Fuse Box?

[Jurassicspark]

Only the cooker is on the cooker fuse circuit.

The new socket in hall is for a cordless phone (getting rid of the extension cable across floor that was previously powering it), maybe a table lamp in the future. Occasionally a vacuum cleaner, so hardly any draw. Don't envisage anyone plugging half a dozen two bar electric fires into it any time soon.

Won't be too long before the whole place is refurbed and rewired. Apart from bringing electrics up to modern standards, it needs the number of sockets to more than double for modern usage - and unfortunately most of the ones there now are singles. So whole installation is on borrowed time - my addition is just a stopgap.

If you want to play it extra safe you can add a 5A fuse just before the circuit.

However, if someone does plug in a heater or whatever then the fuse will trip and due to the elderly they will be without the corded telephone.

 

[pete01]

Clip the cable surface and use an rcd socket, if ya want.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Not to worry, Harry. It's down to me to prove it's live or dead, but goes to show that assumptions could be lethal. Was surprised me was there is no way of isolating the box. Suppose if any more major work needed to box, you have to call the elec people to disconnect first.

It's a good idea, to have an isolator fitted, which isolates everything. Installed just after the meter. It's common now, when asking for a smart meter, asking them to include an isolator, and usually done for free.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Don't know when copper crisis was, house was built in 1961. Could be tinned copper, definitely a bright, metallic finish rather than usual copper colour. Bugger getting them into small terminals though when you have more than one wire. Strands also easily break off if you fiddle with them too much.

After the switch to PVC, from other forms of insulation, in the early 60's, they continued the practice using tinned copper wire for some years, so your silver colour might be tinned copper (hopefully). Aluminium, was very brittle, and not to be messed with after a few years.

 

[Risteard]

If you want to play it extra safe you can add a 5A fuse just before the circuit.

However, if someone does plug in a heater or whatever then the fuse will trip and due to the elderly they will be without the corded telephone.

Fuses can't trip! They rupture.

 

[Jurassicspark]

Fuses can't trip! They rupture.

Well spotted.

 

[ReganAndCarter]

On a trivial note - just so I know - what type of circuit have I created? I called it a spur and a radial because I wasn't sure. Is it actually a radial as it is a new circuit wired direct back to fuse on fuse board? Or does it count as a spur? My money is on radial.

 

[Risteard]

On a trivial note - just so I know - what type of circuit have I created? I called it a spur and a radial because I wasn't sure. Is it actually a radial as it is a new circuit wired direct back to fuse on fuse board? Or does it count as a spur? My money is on radial.

If it connects to the existing ring final circuit then it is a spur from the ring.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is it actually a radial as it is a new circuit wired direct back to fuse on fuse board?

It is not a new circuit; it is an addition to an existing circuit. As said, a spur.

 

[SUNRAY]

It's common now, when asking for a smart meter, asking them to include an isolator, and usually done for free.

Don't you believe it... Mine even refused to fit my isolator or even allow me to fit it while the power was off, that came from EDF and the meter company.

 

[JohnW2]

Fuses can't trip! They rupture.

If we're going to be pedantic, one would hope that fuses don't rupture (which could present dangers) - but, rather, that under the appropriate circumstances, the fuse wire within them will rupture.

In any event, as far as the majority of the general public are concerned,fuses don't tripor rupture - they "blow"

 

[JohnW2]

Don't you believe it... Mine even refused to fit my isolator or even allow me to fit it while the power was off, that came from EDF and the meter company.

Experiences vary. As I've reported before, when I had my 'dumb' meter 'routinely replaced', the guy not only happily installed an isolator (at my request) but refused to use the brand new one which I happened to have on my shelf, instead using an identical one which he had in his van, which he provided free of charge.

He got a few biscuits

 

[EFLImpudence]

In any event, as far as the majority of the general public are concerned,fuses don't tripor rupture - they "blow"

And, I suppose, if they are not very good they also "suck". Silly language.

 

[Risteard]

If we're going to be pedantic, one would hope that fuses don't rupture (which could present dangers) - but, rather, that under the appropriate circumstances, the fuse wire within them will rupture.

In any event, as far as the majority of the general public are concerned,fuses don't tripor rupture - they "blow"

Now you're being a Silly Billy.

 

[JohnW2]

Now you're being a Silly Billy.

Probably no more silly than suggesting that fuses 'rupture' - which, as I said, could be dangerous (and hopefully rarely happens).