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Prep advice for wallpapering a newly skimmed ceiling

Discussion in 'Decorating and Painting' started by byngo, 31 Oct 2011.

  1. byngo

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    Hi,
    Recently had our artexed ceiling skimmed over. (just over a week ago).

    We would like to paper the ceiling but am not sure what preparation to do.
    I see lots of advice for people wanting to paint new plaster but not wallpaper.

    Should I mist coat with matt emulsion?
    Size with wallpaper paste?
    Use watered down PVA?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    Just size with a thinned solution of paste.

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    If you’ve gone to the trouble & expense of having it plastered why on earth do you want to stick paper over it :confused: , is it a poor plastering job?

    You need to leave it 10 - 14 days before doing anything, longer if the Artex pattern was a heavy one as the plaster will be thicker. Sizing is probably best but the decs will confirm; whatever you do don't put PVA on it, it'll cause you all sorts of grief!
     
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    Thanks for the advice both.

    TBH, we hate artex, but I must admit, the embossed wallpaper my missus liked the look of looked similar to the classic artex pattern. :confused:
    The artex was in good condition and the plastering is very good.

    On the other hand, I kind of feel that looking up at a smooth painted ceiling sounds a bit cold and boring.
    What if we did paint the ceiling, then decided to wallpaper after all???

    I have another problem now though that your comment about PVA gave me.
    We had one wall skimmed over as well at the same time.
    I put a 5:1 watered down PVA on it when it looked dry the other day. :oops:
    No ill effects as yet.
    I think she wants the wall painted.
    Can I, should I, do anything before I paint that wall???
     
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    You should first using warm water and a broad edged scraper remove the PVA, then when dry seal with a thinned oil based undercoat. With regard to the ceiling if you are considering painting it at a later date first apply a mist coat.

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    Current fashion is for clean lines & coving free, square ceilings; textured finishes Artex or paper are definitely out!

    That wouldn’t be a problem; mist coat the ceiling first using ordinary matt white emulsion (cheap own brand will do), this 25-30% & apply 2/3 coats in quick succession. Leave to dry overnight before applying your chosen finish coats.


    Oh dear, you have just made one hell of a mistake; PVA & paint do not mix & you won’t be able to paint over it successfully, the paint won’t stick or cover & will look awful. You need to remove it all or go over with a specialist primer.

    Some light reading for you;
    http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=855153#855153
    http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=468227#468227
    http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1488592#1488592
     
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    Ok DEC thanks, what would you recommend for the thinned oil based undercoat?

    Re the ceiling: - Its not so much a case of painting at a later date, but rather the possibility of painting first, then she don't like it and decides that she still wants it papered :confused:
     
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