protestors holding up ordinary people

[ReganAndCarter]

Irrelevant as to whether these types of protests are ok or not.

No it's not.

Farmers are protesting for the right for them and their families to keep on farming and producing our food.

Just Stop Oil are protesting for the right to take us all back to the middle ages.

(Though the JSO lot do provide some entertainment when they get dragged off by angry motorists and given some street justice. )

 

[carmanmemoranda]

No it's not.

Farmers are protesting so that they and their families can keep on farming and producing our food.

Just Stop Oil want us all to go back to the middle ages.

(Though the JSO lot do provide some entertainment when they get dragged off by angry motorists and given some street justice. )

No.

Either such protests are acceptable or they aren't!

Please don't complain if you get held up by a protest you don't agree with that others do

The subject of the protest is totally irrelevant

 

[Deleted member 317777]

No.

Either such protests are acceptable or they aren't!

Please don't complain if you get held up by a protest you don't agree with that others do

The subject of the protest is totally irrelevant

Scooby Doo makes more sense than you doo

 

[Gone Skiing]

No it's not.

Farmers are protesting for the right for them and their families to keep on farming and producing our food.

Just Stop Oil are protesting for the right to take us all back to the middle ages.

(Though the JSO lot do provide some entertainment when they get dragged off by angry motorists and given some street justice. )

Just Stop Oil are protesting for their descendants to live in healthy environment. Being able to breath is more important on Maslow's hierarchy of physiological needs.
Physiological needs may include:

• Air
• Water
• Food
• Heat
• Clothes
• Reproduction
• Shelter[2]
• Sleep

There won't be any middle, modern, technological or AI ages if we all suffocate or die of lung disease.
Populations do collapse. The extinction of many species of animals is a perfect example of the fallibility of existence.

European populations collapsed about 40,000 years ago.

Those first modern humans that had interbred with Neanderthals and lived alongside them died out completely in Europe 40,000 years ago - but not before their offspring had spread further out into the world.

Humans may not have survived without Neanderthals

A new DNA analysis has shown that the arrival of modern humans from Africa was far from smooth.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Deleted member 317777]

Just Stop Oil are protesting for their descendants to live in healthy environment. Being able to breath is more important on Maslow's hierarchy of physiological needs.
Physiological needs may include:

• Air
• Water
• Food
• Heat
• Clothes
• Reproduction
• Shelter[2]
• Sleep

There won't be any middle, modern, technological or AI ages if we all suffocate or die of lung disease.
Populations do collapse. The extinction of many species of animals is a perfect example of the fallibility of existence.

European populations collapsed about 40,000 years ago.

Humans may not have survived without Neanderthals

A new DNA analysis has shown that the arrival of modern humans from Africa was far from smooth.

www.bbc.co.uk

How’s stopping a game of snooker going to help ?

Stop oil are a bunch of children having tantrums.

Oil can’t be replaced. End of

 

[Gone Skiing]

How’s stopping a game of snooker going to help ?

It's called a protest, but in your case and others, only if you agree with their cause.

Stop oil are a bunch of children having tantrums.

If you don't agree with their cause, it's called having tantrums.

Oil can’t be replaced. End of

Don't be daft. I'm sure that they made the claim in Egypt when they were building pyramids that human effort can't be replaced. End of, in Egyptian of course.
Then they said in the middle ages that horses can't be replaced. End of, in olde english of course.
Then they said in the middle ages that steam can't be replaced. End of, in French of course.
Then they said in the forties that humans can't be replaced in code breaking. End of, in German of course.
Then they said in the fifties that the higher Thames banks can't be replaced. End of, in Cockney slang, of course.
Of course oil can be replaced. It's just a case of motivation, from the right quarter.

 

[JohnD]

Oil can’t be replaced.

Of course it can.

One day it will.

End of

 

[Odds]

Farmers are complaining that importing quality American beef will cost them a share of the market: not if it's priced competitively, of course, so they're just pi$$ed to see another slice of their profit margin eaten away. Not much left to inherit, at this rate.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

Of course it can.

One day it will.

End of

One day…..

 

[ellal]

Farmers are complaining that importing quality American beef will cost them a share of the market: not if it's priced competitively, of course, so they're just pi$$ed to see another slice of their profit margin eaten away. Not much left to inherit, at this rate.

And quite rightly so...

But a large number of them don't have that much of a 'profit margin'!

If it's cheaper to bring in meat from the other side of the world, or the US, then that is because of the burdens that successive UK governments have put on them...

At least previously they could export with no problem to the EU...

And we all know what happened there, and the promised support package never happened or was never spent...

And UK food security is disappearing fast!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

And quite rightly so...

But a large number of them don't have that much of a 'profit margin'!

If it's cheaper to bring in meat from the other side of the world, or the US, then that is because of the burdens that successive UK governments have put on them...

At least previously they could export with no problem to the EU...

And we all know what happened there, and the promised support package never happened or was never spent...

And UK food security is disappearing fast!

Didn't farmers en masse support Brexit anyway ?

 

[ellal]

Didn't farmers en masse support Brexit anyway ?

About 54% apparently, so not much different from the other village idiots...

And I have said afterwards about their vote, sod 'em for believing the lies!

But what is happening now is worthy of support because the UK farming industry is under attack...

The mooting of an idea that US 'high grade' meat could be exported under an FTA deal begs the following question.

If family farms are forced to sell to pay off the IHT, then who will buy those farms?

Which begs another question. In whose interest is this tax move?
After all it's only supposed to raise £500m, but will wreck many families!

It'll be corporates who buy, and many of whom may well be US ones - so producing from within but will probably be classed as an 'export' on the balance sheets .

 

[JohnD]

 

[Diver Fred]

Just Stop Oil are protesting for their descendants to live in healthy environment. Being able to breath is more important on Maslow's hierarchy of physiological needs.
Physiological needs may include:

• Air
• Water
• Food
• Heat
• Clothes
• Reproduction
• Shelter[2]
• Sleep

There won't be any middle, modern, technological or AI ages if we all suffocate or die of lung disease.
Populations do collapse. The extinction of many species of animals is a perfect example of the fallibility of existence.

European populations collapsed about 40,000 years ago.

Humans may not have survived without Neanderthals

A new DNA analysis has shown that the arrival of modern humans from Africa was far from smooth.

www.bbc.co.uk

If JSO are concerned about their descendants then they should protest about the population increase. I say it's time to stop paying child allowance for more than the second birth and heavily tax families with more than 4 children.
I regard Billy-Boy Winsor a hypocrite cause he fathered 3 children and then he his the figure head for various climate bodies. At least his thoughtful dad only fathered 2.

 

[ellal]

"The “tractor tax” row has taken a dramatic new turn after a pro-Labour tax expert used by Sir Keir Starmer to support the move called on him to reverse his decision.

Labour-supporting tax campaigner Dan Neidle says the Budget decision to charge death tax on family farms worth over £1m should be dumped in favour of a £20m threshold with an added clawback system. The clawback would apply for those who sold farms worth less than £20m immediately after inheriting them"

As for those believing IHT won't hit profits that much...

"Considering typical historic returns on an average cereals farm and factoring in the reduction in direct payments, a farm making a profit of £34,000 will be hit with 10 annual IHT instalments of £53,000, over 1.5 times its profits. Even at a £2m threshold, the annual tax payments of £33,000 would equal farm profits.”