Quinetic, Eco NEWLEAF - are they totally different?

[MisterBoy]

I was looking into the Quinetic light switch products and like the principle, but when searching for them on Amazon UK I only see products by ECO-NEWLEAF. A bit of googling says Quinetic is only sold by TLC-Direct.
The products look near-identical and I don't want to get into a mess of incompatible protocols or cheap knock-offs. Who are the main players in this space and is there an obvious winner, or is it like buying a regular light switch, as long as it works it works?

 

[JohnW2]

I was looking into the Quinetic light switch products and like the principle, but when searching for them on Amazon UK I only see products by ECO-NEWLEAF. A bit of googling says Quinetic is only sold by TLC-Direct.

That is apparently true, but I don't know what the relationship is between TLC and the manufacturers.

The products look near-identical and I don't want to get into a mess of incompatible protocols or cheap knock-offs.

I certainly don't think you can bank (or really expect) compatability between different brands of this sort of product. Some might be essentially identical copies of others, but who knows?!

 

[SUNRAY]

I think this says they are compatible

The Future of Home Automation: Quinetic Kinetic Wireless Switches

Home automation has taken a giant leap forward with the introduction of Quinetic Kinetic Wireless Switches. These innovative switches offer a seamless...

www.eco-newleaf.com

 

[JohnW2]

I think this says they are compatible

The Future of Home Automation: Quinetic Kinetic Wireless Switches

Home automation has taken a giant leap forward with the introduction of Quinetic Kinetic Wireless Switches. These innovative switches offer a seamless...

www.eco-newleaf.com

It seems a bit confusing - all the text is about Quinetic, but the products it shows (as well as the website name) all seem to be branded "Eco-Newleaf".

 

[SUNRAY]

It seems a bit confusing - all the text is about Quinetic, but the products it shows (as well as the website name) all seem to be branded "Eco-Newleaf".

Yes agreed, and on that basis alone I assume they have the authority to do that and further assume they are demonstrating the products are similar.

 

[MisterBoy]

I wonder if they are white label.
That said I’ve found some chat on an electrician forum and Quinetic seems to be the clear favourite, being TLC Direct seems to buy them approval from tradies. So I think I’ll go that brand when/if I try it out.

There seems to be a lot more integrations than in the past.. zigbee, WiFi, Alexa… those are only bonuses because I want lights that turn on reliably, but as a nerd it could be fun

 

[JohnW2]

Yes agreed, and on that basis alone I assume they have the authority to do that and further assume they are demonstrating the products are similar.

Eco-Newleaf is unashamedly a company based in China. I'm not sure who manufactures Quinetic products (and where). All the legal stuff on the Ts&Cs on Quinetic website refer only to"TLC (Southern) Limited", which seems to imply that Quinetic is either a subsidiary of, or maybe just a trading name of TLC.