Bonding the pipes under a boiler is not required, and never has been.
Recommend a boiler please
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The point I was attempting to make is a legal one , but we will agree to diasagree , about service agents 
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Biasi boilers , 360 installed , 42) 24s & 28s Prisma/riva's , combis , 52) 24 SR Riva systems boilers .
38) Parva/Riva Compact systems boilers , & 62) combis .
All the above are not condensing !
120)Riva H.E , & Garda H.E combis , 46 riva H.E systems boilers .
All the above are the atmospheric condensing boilers , what you might refer to as the cheap ones ? how do you want it , do you want the condensers only or do you want all of them ? do you want in- warranty faults only ? or do you want something like boiler installed 2001 ,fault occured 2002 repaced fan e.c.t ?
.Biasi boilers , 360 installed , 42) 24s & 28s Prisma/riva's , combis , 52) 24 SR Riva systems boilers .
38) Parva/Riva Compact systems boilers , & 62) combis .
All the above are not condensing !
120)Riva H.E , & Garda H.E combis , 46 riva H.E systems boilers .
All the above are the atmospheric condensing boilers , what you might refer to as the cheap ones ? how do you want it , do you want the condensers only or do you want all of them ? do you want in- warranty faults only ? or do you want something like boiler installed 2001 ,fault occured 2002 repaced fan e.c.t ?
1st installment biasi prisma/riva 24s 28s combis 24sr systems , biasi gave a 1 year warranty on boilers , on our 8th installation we gave a 2nd year warranty, on all biasi boilers installed , 'underwritten by ourselves', not insurance co ! except on 7 boilers installed at a school, any boilers inthe following 'marked' school would mean they are on 24/7 52 weeks of the year!
we have 'never' had to change , any ignition or detection leads on any biasi boilers due to faults (take note ravenheat).we have never had an in-warranty fault with any syatem boilers,1st or 2nd year!! the only components ever changed on 52 installed systems boilers are , boiler installed Oct 99 fan changed Feb 03, boiler install' Mar 01 control board June 09.
combis 24s, 1st one installed april 98 ign pcb dec 98 . control pcb feb01,
another control pcb april 02.
28s installed may 98 fan feb99 warranty. 24s installed may98 fan nov99.
28s installed aug 99 control pcb oct 2000 2nd year warranty. 28s installed oct 99 control board oct 99 same day , fan 2002, aps feb 2003, ign pcb july04.
School 28s installed april 99 gas valve april99, warranty, fan feb 01, fan april03, aps 03 , pump 04 , fan feb 07.
school 28s installed april 99 fan june 2000 , fan 2001 , fan may 03,fan feb 09 .
school 24s installed april 2000 , fan nov 01 warranty , ign pcb may 03 .
28s april 01 fan may 07 , plate exchanger march 09 . 24s installed april01 fan nov 02 2nd year warranty .
have not included any diaphram washers e.g h.w or primary or exp'vessels fair ware & tear none in-warranty, all other probs , nothing to do with boilers .
we have 'never' had to change , any ignition or detection leads on any biasi boilers due to faults (take note ravenheat).we have never had an in-warranty fault with any syatem boilers,1st or 2nd year!! the only components ever changed on 52 installed systems boilers are , boiler installed Oct 99 fan changed Feb 03, boiler install' Mar 01 control board June 09.
combis 24s, 1st one installed april 98 ign pcb dec 98 . control pcb feb01,
another control pcb april 02.
28s installed may 98 fan feb99 warranty. 24s installed may98 fan nov99.
28s installed aug 99 control pcb oct 2000 2nd year warranty. 28s installed oct 99 control board oct 99 same day , fan 2002, aps feb 2003, ign pcb july04.
School 28s installed april 99 gas valve april99, warranty, fan feb 01, fan april03, aps 03 , pump 04 , fan feb 07.
school 28s installed april 99 fan june 2000 , fan 2001 , fan may 03,fan feb 09 .
school 24s installed april 2000 , fan nov 01 warranty , ign pcb may 03 .
28s april 01 fan may 07 , plate exchanger march 09 . 24s installed april01 fan nov 02 2nd year warranty .
have not included any diaphram washers e.g h.w or primary or exp'vessels fair ware & tear none in-warranty, all other probs , nothing to do with boilers .
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2nd installment .
biasi parva/riva plus combis & systems boilers , all boilers with the word school , means boilers on 24/7 52 weeks a year total boilers here is 100, bot there are I beleive a further 3 mini c's ?? but I dont have them on record .all parvas came with 2 year warranty , as the riva plus was the same boiler I assume it also did my records list all boilers as parvas , but many were riva plus badged .
No diaphram washers included , some auto air vents would have been changed , as general maintenance , some combis were used as systems boilers , all of these records are in long hand so it takes me time to sort them .
24 combi oct 01 ,fan march 03 warranty . 24 systems L.P.G, oct 01, ign pcb feb 04, fan nov 04 . 28 combi school nov 01 , fan dec 02 fan march 05 , ign pcb dec05 fan jan 07 . 28 combi march 02 ign nov 09 .24 combi march 02 fan march02 next day .28 combi aug 02 ign pcb jan 07, g.vvlve may 08 . 24 combi school aug 02 , fan oct 04 boiler removed feb 05 due to building works .24 combi nov 02 fan may 03 .24 systems boiler june 03 ign pcb sep 07 . 24 systems boiler june 03 pcp feb 08 . 24 systems boiler oct 03 fan & ign pcb jan 09.
I am not aware of any other faults on these boilers , some people may have died , moved , or gone else where ? condensers later in week !!
biasi parva/riva plus combis & systems boilers , all boilers with the word school , means boilers on 24/7 52 weeks a year total boilers here is 100, bot there are I beleive a further 3 mini c's ?? but I dont have them on record .all parvas came with 2 year warranty , as the riva plus was the same boiler I assume it also did my records list all boilers as parvas , but many were riva plus badged .
No diaphram washers included , some auto air vents would have been changed , as general maintenance , some combis were used as systems boilers , all of these records are in long hand so it takes me time to sort them .
24 combi oct 01 ,fan march 03 warranty . 24 systems L.P.G, oct 01, ign pcb feb 04, fan nov 04 . 28 combi school nov 01 , fan dec 02 fan march 05 , ign pcb dec05 fan jan 07 . 28 combi march 02 ign nov 09 .24 combi march 02 fan march02 next day .28 combi aug 02 ign pcb jan 07, g.vvlve may 08 . 24 combi school aug 02 , fan oct 04 boiler removed feb 05 due to building works .24 combi nov 02 fan may 03 .24 systems boiler june 03 ign pcb sep 07 . 24 systems boiler june 03 pcp feb 08 . 24 systems boiler oct 03 fan & ign pcb jan 09.
I am not aware of any other faults on these boilers , some people may have died , moved , or gone else where ? condensers later in week !!
3rd installment biasi condensers riva compact & garda H.E. essentially the same boiler ! as far as I am aware the garda is only available from B&Q(?) at some date biasi introduced the C2 models main differences are gas valve , a single pcb , flue stat , H.W flow switch . 166 boilers installed , 1st one nov 04 ! 6 boilers were installed outsid the U.K (L.P.G ) & no warranty was given , I am still aware of these boilers . 3 boilers were linked together on 1 installation 1 year warranty, on 24/7 52 weeks a year (school) July 06 . All other boilers had a 1 year warranty from biasi , but we gave another years warranty (not insurance )2 yrs total .
combi dec 04 fan aug 09 . systems july 05 ign jan 07 . systems aug 05 ign feb 08 . systems june 06 flue stat aug 06 Warranty! systems C2 july 06 pcb june 09. combi C2 oct 06 pcb aug 09 . combi C2 dec 07 diverter motor dec 07 same day as installed same boiler N.T.C april 08 warranty !
in total 2 faults under guarantee ! a further 3 boilers were purchased & broken for spares . biasi have now(?) introduced the the Mk 2 version different parts , they now come with an alloy heat exc not stainless , I hope they have got it right ?? I have no exp' with the pre-mix models .
I am of the opinion that the early S.R rivas were the most reliable boilers of there type we have used , I would have to admit that all of them have proved to be reliable to date ! hope this has been of help to all !
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