Reform Policies

[carmanmemoranda]

Champagne socialist then.

Wanting people to be able to live on wages?

Nothing wring with people making money. It's the differences between the haves and the have nots thats the total problem in this country.

That's not champagne socialism, it's ethical capitalism

What you want is not

And immigration isn't the biggest issue holding the country back

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Reform are the most popular party in the UK. Labour are definitely not. You're in a minority, it's not going your way so just accept it.

In a few years you can see if that works out or not.

Til then, make the best of it. It's what the country voted for after all

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Preaching on some DIY forum at anyone who disagrees with you will achieve absolutely nothing.

Oh the irony

 

[Notch7]

You're nuts. Proper fruitcake ranting, shouting at the sky stuff.

did you vote for Brexit?
did you vote for Boris Johnson?

come on Ivor, surely you can answer that

 

[Notch7]

Preaching on some DIY forum at anyone who disagrees with you will achieve absolutely nothing.

bye bye then, off you toddle

 

[noseall]

Reform are the most popular party in the UK

For the time being, thogh their popularity has taken a battering lately.

. Labour are

The party in power. The best bit is you have years to get used to it.

. You're in a minority,

It only matters during an election cycle. See point two above.

 

[Mottie]

Reform are just Tory 2.0

literally

Farage -ex Tory member
Tice -ex Tory member
Widdecombe -ex Tory MP
Pochin -ex Tory candidate
Anderson -ex Tory MP
Kruger -ex Tory MP
Dorries -ex Tory MP
Chris Green -ex Tory MP
Leadsome -ex Tory MP

Reforms policies on economic issues: Tory
Reforms policies on social issues: Tory

Political parties evolve over time. Are the Liberal Democrat’s (Formerly the SDP) Labour 2.0 because it was formed solely by ex Labour politicians?

 

[Mottie]

did you vote for Brexit?
did you vote for Boris Johnson?

come on Ivor, surely you can answer that

Perhaps he was 50/50 on that, just like you were.

 

[noseall]

Political parties evolve over time. Are the Liberal Democrat’s (Formerly the SDP) Labour 2.0 because it was formed solely by ex Labour politicians?

I suppose it could be construed as that yes. If they were moderates or fringe, then I'd say less likely. If they were extreme Labourites verging on the far left, then yes, all day.

 

[MNW67]

Political parties evolve over time. Are the Liberal Democrat’s (Formerly the SDP) Labour 2.0 because it was formed solely by ex Labour politicians?

No, because the SDP merged with the Liberals. Remember, Mrs Thatcher once described herself as a Liberal. That's why we got the weird coalition with the Tories where some of the Orange Book Lib Dems seemed more gung ho about making cuts than the Tories themselves.

 

[morqthana]

Jeeessssuss. Do you seriously think you're so much cleverer than everyone else?

He appears to be cleverer than you.

 

[morqthana]

Preaching on some DIY forum at anyone who disagrees with you will achieve absolutely nothing.

So why do you keep on doing it?

 

[Mottie]

No, because the SDP merged…

So they evolved then.

 

[MNW67]

So they evolved then.

Not really. They are still a weird alliance of social democrats and liberals (in the traditional British sense)

AI Overview

Yes, individuals who adhere to the principles outlined in "The Orange Book" are still active within the Liberal Democrats (Lib Dems)
. This includes the current party leader, Sir Ed Davey.
The "Orange Bookers" represent a specific ideological wing within the party that generally advocates for economic liberalism and a balance of four main liberal thoughts: social, economic, cultural, and political liberalism. This contrasts with the more traditional social liberal wing of the party.