Reform Policies

[Odds]

What makes you think they won’t?

Answering a q. with another q.?

 

[Odds]

Oh. You think people start off intelligent then become more stupid over time?

I didn't say that.

By that logic, we should all be taught by newborns.

Children can show adults a new perspective, given the opportunity.

 

[Mottie]

Answering a q. with another q.?

Like you did in post #1195?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I didn't say that.



Children can show adults a new perspective, given the opportunity.

Oh, so you think intelligence peaks at 18 then reduces?

Do you think you've become more stupid since you were young, or do you think your rules only apply to everyone else?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Is it just possible that everyone gets more intelligent as they mature, but many other people form different opinions to yours?

 

[noseall]

Mostly useless ones

Utter nonsense.

 

[Brigadier]

Did they win any councils that were running efficiently and within budget then?

Have they improved any of the councils they've won?

 

[Odds]

Oh, so you think intelligence peaks at 18 then reduces?

Sometimes...

Do you think you've become more stupid since you were young, or do you think your rules only apply to everyone else?

I have not but cannot vouch for you or anyone else.

 

[Odds]

Is it just possible that everyone gets more intelligent as they mature, but many other people form different opinions to yours?

It's one thing to form an opinion after reading a headline in The Sun.
It is a different matter to form an opinion after reading an article in The Times on the same story.

 

[Odds]

You realise 'reform' are full of failed Tories, right...what makes you think they'll be any better?

I answered in the first part and asked a q. in the second.

Like you did in post #1195?

like that.

 

[Mottie]

Have they improved any of the councils they've won?

Has labour improved the country since they won the GE?

 

[Brigadier]

Has labour improved the country since they won the GE?

Swerve.

It was your postulate, that Reform would improve things (unless you thought they'd make things worse but you intended to give them a go anyway)

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

It's one thing to form an opinion after reading a headline in The Sun.
It is a different matter to form an opinion after reading an article in The Times on the same story.

There's definitely a theme among the current crop of Labour party supporters - it's that they think they're cleverer than everyone else, and that not thinking like them is a fault. It's really patronising rubbish.

IMO left-wing voters are idealists, who think everyone should be lovely, if you're nice to someone else they'll become nice too, and look after someone else.

Right-wing voters are realists, who would like the above to be true but accept that most people are selfish so life needs to be harsh for those who don't pull their own weight.

They're different opinions but both are valid. People start on the left, then move to the right as they see the freeloaders fleecing the others, who get treated like mugs or just give up completely and join the freeloaders.

It's all about what motivates people. Life experience teaches most people that selfish needs are a much more powerful motivation than the desire to look after others, so the world works better on reality rather than on idealism.

 

[aveatry]

There's definitely a theme among the current crop of Labour party supporters - it's that they think they're cleverer than everyone else, and that not thinking like them is a fault. It's really patronising rubbish.

IMO left-wing voters are idealists, who think everyone should be lovely, if you're nice to someone else they'll become nice too, and look after someone else.

Right-wing voters are realists, who would like the above to be true but accept that most people are selfish so life needs to be harsh for those who don't pull their own weight.

They're different opinions but both are valid. People start on the left, then move to the right as they see the freeloaders fleecing the others, who get treated like mugs or just give up completely and join the freeloaders.

It's all about what motivates people. Life experience teaches most people that selfish needs are a much more powerful motivation than the desire to look after others, so the world works better on reality rather than on idealism.

The lefties always run to their security blanket of "you read it in the Sun" or the Mail, or what your auntie said on facebook or you saw it on GB news. They just can not accept other peoples lived experiences of real life - mostly because they live in their little isolated and protected villages and towns where the only crime they worry about is some litter.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The lefties always run to their security blanket of "you read it in the Sun" or the Mail, or what your auntie said on facebook or you saw it on GB news. They just can not accept other peoples lived experiences of real life - mostly because they live in their little isolated and protected villages and towns where the only crime they worry about is some litter.

Totally. Those who spout about diversity and refugees welcome almost always live in middle-class white-only enclaves, well away from the dirty plebs. Well-meaning, but totally patronising and utterly removed from reality.

Labour was once the party of the working class. Now it's misguided middle-class muppets who live in their own bubble. And benefits claimants. That's it, that accounts for their 18% support.

The rest are voting for and supporting parties that (hopefully) will actually improve their communities rather than continuing to destroy them with well-meaning but clueless drivel.