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The modern life has been designed to exclude a minority group.
Resident in Relocatable Property
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Yet not one has any knowledge to offer of the legal situation, nor any counter information about the illegality of residents in relocatable property.
Which suggests that my original argument is true, that it is not legally possible to be a nomad in Britain in the 21st century.
Every one must have a permanent address.
If one is, by birth or adopted culture, a nomad, one automatically is an illegal.
In fact no-one has considered the original point of the thread. Merely presented numerous accounts of their own perceptions.
Weren’t these ones were they Bernard?
https://www.essexlive.news/news/essex-news/harold-hill-pompadours-travellers-mess-1633768
https://www.guardian-series.co.uk/n...vergreen-field-wanstead-still-not-cleared-up/
https://www.lbbd.gov.uk/sites/default/files/attachments/Witness-statement-bundle.pdf
https://www.expressandstar.com/news...-at-mess-left-by-travellers-in-west-bromwich/
No they were not the travellers in those reports.
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You're still refusing to address the issue raised in the OP, the creation of an illegal minority group by successive legislation.
If you persist in persecuting a minority group of people, what do you expect of them? To respect your laws, the laws that have created their illegal status?
Not designed intentionally for that purpose.
If that is a consequence then, like millions of others who want to do illegal things, they will have to change.
Democracy ???
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Can we be sure of that?
I doubt if we can, especially the recent legislation to make it easier to evict Gypsies.
It wasn't illegal for the first few centuries of their existence. The legislation has been designed to alienate them.
Do Nomads have a vote?
Either way, you must be saying that certain people do not have to abide by the law of the land.
Times change.
Even if they do, a tiny group would not win anything democratically. That's how it works.
Did they do rubbish clearance in the first few centuries of their existence then?
Sure, they were fine but I haven’t seen any genuine 'Gypsies' since the late sixties/early seventies.
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I suspect you might be familiar with the concept of government alienating a group and whipping up prejudice against that group. Public opinion follows and justifies the government legislating more harshly against that group, causing the group to have no alternative than to either conform or to ignore the legislation, leading to further 'anti-social' behaviour, leading to justification of even harsher restrictions, ad infinitum.
And some groups have little culture to loose and conform. Others refuse to conform. It's always been thus.
Who initiated the problem?
Other countries do not have the problem. The minority group can live within their society.
They might have 'champions' in the political system. As it is their voice can be inconsequentially ignored, even alienated even further, with little or no public opposition. Even, due to the enforced anti-social practices, these further restrictions are supported, leading to further enforced anti-social behaviour. Eventually, the minority group are legislated out of existence.
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Maybe they've been legislated out of existence.
Well, they still exist so can't have been legislated out of existence so maybe your fundamental premise is wrong.
There are old fashioned ones - with horses and caravans - here (in Portugal because that is what 'here' means when I use it) and there was one in Wimborne, Dorset who turns up for a few weeks every year, park by the side of the road on wide grass verges and leave no mess.
Perhaps expecting councils to provide lorry and the largest mobile home parks and clear up afterwards paid for by everyone else is unreasonable.
There are old fashioned ones - with horses and caravans - here (in Portugal because that is what 'here' means when I use it) and there was one in Wimborne, Dorset who turns up for a few weeks every year, park by the side of the road on wide grass verges and leave no mess.
Perhaps expecting councils to provide lorry and the largest mobile home parks and clear up afterwards paid for by everyone else is unreasonable.
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My evidence is witnessed by me..Not media reports..You ain’t listening dude..How many times do you need to be told the same thing before it implants in your memory?
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They show little to no respect for countryside or people in Co.Durham.
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