Saving the economy

[pred]

To help save the economy, the Government will announce next month that the Immigration Department will start deporting pensioners (instead of illegal immigrants) in order to lower Social Security and NHS medical costs.
Older people are easier to catch and will not remember how to get back home.

 

[wotan]

To help save the economy, the Government will announce next month that the Immigration Department will start deporting pensioners (instead of illegal immigrants) in order to lower Social Security and NHS medical costs.
Older people are easier to catch and will not remember how to get back home.

This will then free up property / accommodation, for more immigrants to move into, the average bungalow, should accommodate six families

 

[joe-90]

Most f them Muslim though so Pred won't be happy.

 

[mdf290]

Why deport pensioners... The NHS simply despatch them with the Liverpool 'Care' Pathway
Otherwise known as 'neglect' or 'starving someone to death'

 

[joinerjohn]

Why deport pensioners... The NHS simply despatch them with the Liverpool 'Care' Pathway
Otherwise known as 'neglect' or 'starving someone to death'

Quite wrong there mdf. The LCP is invoked a few days or even hours before death and is only for terminally ill patients. It does not involve neglect or starvation.

 

[captaincaveman1]

Whys it have to be the "liverpool" care pathway what a load of *******s

 

[mdf290]

Why deport pensioners... The NHS simply despatch them with the Liverpool 'Care' Pathway
Otherwise known as 'neglect' or 'starving someone to death'

Quite wrong there mdf. The LCP is invoked a few days or even hours before death and is only for terminally ill patients. It does not involve neglect or starvation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-NHS-kills-130-000-elderly-patients-year.html

 

[joinerjohn]

All the link shows is that certain patients are being wrongly diagnosed, by incompetent or lazy doctors. Plus it's in the Daily Fail,,, so it must be true.
BTW, I work in a specialist dementia nursing home and residents are only placed on the LCP in their final days. Only after their own GP has agreed (not some junior doctor at the local super hospital). By the time they are placed on the LCP, they are invariably extremely unresponsive anyway (mind you our staff are all very experienced in dementia care and can tell when residents reach end stage dementia, so perhaps not the same situation as large hospitals)

 

[mdf290]

All the link shows is that certain patients are being wrongly diagnosed, by incompetent or lazy doctors. Plus it's in the Daily Fail,,, so it must be true.
BTW, I work in a specialist dementia nursing home and residents are only placed on the LCP in their final days. Only after their own GP has agreed (not some junior doctor at the local super hospital). By the time they are placed on the LCP, they are invariably extremely unresponsive anyway (mind you our staff are all very experienced in dementia care and can tell when residents reach end stage dementia, so perhaps not the same situation as large hospitals)

Not the same situation is an understatement.
Your dementia patients cause no logistical problems - To be blunt as long as they are occupying a bed it is revenue to your nursing home , However patients 'blocking' beds in hospitals affect targets and therefore funding . The other aspect you briefly touched on staffing - a crap nurse in your nursing home will get a P45 whereas a crap nurse in a hospital gets shielded by her peers and the unions .

 

[alumni]

My daughter, a student nurse, came upon this scenario earlier this year.
Caused her some angst as to the rights/wrongs, ethics and what she, with her youthful beliefs thought should be done.

To be fair to her, she gave it a lot of careful thought and considered carefully the state of the patient and the efforts, discussions and checks/balances that were carried out before accepting it really was the kindest option.

 

[joinerjohn]

Well mdf, at least we seem to agree on something. Most hospitals, just are not set up to provide any sort of care for dementia sufferers. An example. A friend of mine who works in another nursing home , had two residents sent to hospital the same week. Both having fell and suffered broken hips. (very common with elderly people) One suffered with dementia and the other was just there for residential care.
The dementia sufferer was returned to the home within one week, whereas the resident without dementia, enjoyed another fortnight in hospital, recuperating.

Perhaps though, in hospitals, the decision to initiate the LCP should be passed on to the patients own GP. Instead of some doctor who's probably under extreme pressure to free beds up.

 

[LastMagicBean]

deporting pensioners

We'll end up with no-one left in General Discussion.

 

[chapeau]

This Liverpool Care Pathway is a bit namby-pamby if you ask me.

Brompton Cocktail all the way, the earlier given the better, in fact I wouldn't mind some with my after dinner port tonight.