Second Referendum

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Someone is telling porkies:
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The Daily Mail, using the results from the recent Survation research, commissioned by the paper.

The real results:
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Is there support for the draft agreement?

We asked those aware of the draft agreement whether they support or oppose it, only 27% said they supported it while just under half (49%) were opposed.
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As the above table highlights a slightly higher percentage of respondents agreed that the government’s Brexit agreement is not ideal but it is better than any other available option than disagreed. Nearly half though believe that it would be better to stay in the EU than accept the agreement.
" https://www.survation.com/public-surveyed-on-the-draft-government-withdrawal-agreement/

The situation for TM is even worse:

"Should Theresa May be replaced?
The public’s confidence in Theresa May is at a low point following yesterday’s events with half saying Theresa May should resign and only a third saying she should not (the remaining respondents said they don’t know)." https://www.survation.com/public-surveyed-on-the-draft-government-withdrawal-agreement/

For the government to deny a second referendum is tantamount to deny the electorate democracy.
"EU Referendum topline voting intention (All respondents weighted by likelihood to vote with “Don’t know” and “Refused” removed)

Leave: 47%

Remain: 53%

The poll included voting intention on a hypothetical rerun of the EU referendum, the results (broadly inline with our recent large scale polling) show Remain would win this time around." https://www.survation.com/public-surveyed-on-the-draft-government-withdrawal-agreement/

Clearly there is a mood from the electorate for a second referendum:
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Someone is telling porkies:
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The Daily Mail, using the results from the recent Survation research, commissioned by the paper.

The real results:
"
Is there support for the draft agreement?

We asked those aware of the draft agreement whether they support or oppose it, only 27% said they supported it while just under half (49%) were opposed.
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As the above table highlights a slightly higher percentage of respondents agreed that the government’s Brexit agreement is not ideal but it is better than any other available option than disagreed. Nearly half though believe that it would be better to stay in the EU than accept the agreement.
" https://www.survation.com/public-surveyed-on-the-draft-government-withdrawal-agreement/

The situation for TM is even worse:

"Should Theresa May be replaced?
The public’s confidence in Theresa May is at a low point following yesterday’s events with half saying Theresa May should resign and only a third saying she should not (the remaining respondents said they don’t know)." https://www.survation.com/public-surveyed-on-the-draft-government-withdrawal-agreement/
Shock horror,newspaper lies.
 
Choose life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a big television. Choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisure wear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suit in a range of fabrics. Choose DIY and wondering who you are on Sunday morning. Choose sitting on your couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game-shows, stuffing junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, ****ing your last in a miserable home. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got cycle touring?
 
Shock horror, Brextremist campaigners lie.

Perhaps if they find it works, they'll paint it on a red bus.

Buffoon, Gove and Iain Smith can drive round the country with it.

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Why do we not just have an election.
Every party putting their cards on the table.
Leave no deal
Leave with a deal
Stay in the EU.
 
Why do we not just have an election.
Because despite Brexit being the most important/divisive issue this country has faced in living memory, elections are fought on multiple issues...
 
Why do we not just have an election.
Every party putting their cards on the table.
Leave no deal
Leave with a deal
Stay in the EU.

They won't do that. They'll do what they think will win an election.

Frankly I don't trust a word May says right now. That said I'd sooner 'trust' her over Corbyn and that sausage of a shadow home secretary he's got.

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Because despite Brexit being the most important/divisive issue this country has faced in living memory, elections are fought on multiple issues...


If we have a 2nd vote it will ruin this country as a preaching democracy.

Every Banana Republic or dictatorship we ever patronise or preach to will rightly stick their middle finger up, and tell us to spin.

Make this the Brexit election..

If remain wins (let's say Liberal) let them sit with the likes of Malter and Luxembourgs smug twits
 
If we have a 2nd vote it will ruin this country as a preaching democracy.

Every Banana Republic or dictatorship we ever patronise or preach to will rightly stick their middle finger up, and tell us to spin.

Make this the Brexit election..

If remain wins (let's say Liberal) let them sit with the likes of Malter and Luxembourgs smug twits
Exactly,cannot see ref 2 in/out happening,would be utter chaos
 
Why do we not just have an election.
Every party putting their cards on the table.
Leave no deal
Leave with a deal
Stay in the EU.

There's no point in calling another election unless a change of government would mean that there must be a second referendum also, as otherwise, what's the point?
If May does call a snap election, it would probably be in the hope of losing it, so that way when the country goes down the pan post Brexit, Tories can blame Labour and get back in again.

But, more likely that May will see it through and then there will be an election once we're properly out and know how it really is to be out of the EU. At the moment people are still really guessing / hoping / assuming. Nobody actually knows how it will all turn out, and that is the scariest thing really. It's like the government decided to play roulette with GB. We might all be millionaires this time next year, but then again, we might all be bankrupt.

Hey ho. It will be an interesting few years whatever happens. Hoping everybody here survives the storm that is to come.
 
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