Does anyone know can I fit a self cutting tap without isolating water supply only can't find stop cock anywhere and stop cock where water mtr is outside is not accessible due to hole being full of bud and roots!! Thx
Self cutting tap!!
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No. Cause if it go's wrong your in the deep stuff.
And why do you want one of the dreadful things ?
And why do you want one of the dreadful things ?
Id rather clear the stopcock hole than have a flood on your hands.
then fit a stopcock indoors aswell while it's off.
then fit a stopcock indoors aswell while it's off.
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Yes it can be done, BUT it is not recommended if you can't find the stopcock.
Things can go wrong when fitting and will flood the place.
Best to find an isolation first and test to see if it works.
Really should be looking to fit a new stopcock first.
if you can't find an isolator,
stop cock, internal or one in street,
drain down,
fit isolator and appliance valve
mains on, check for leaks.
self cutting tap =
try and cut with water live,
mis judge it slightly, water going everywhere,
scramble for stop cock, internal one broke,
scramble for one in street, cacked up in mud, dig it out and 10 mins later get the water off.
by this time inside is wetter than loch ness
you've gotta drain down even if in worst case scenario you can turn it back off again if it does leak
stop cock, internal or one in street,
drain down,
fit isolator and appliance valve
mains on, check for leaks.
self cutting tap =
try and cut with water live,
mis judge it slightly, water going everywhere,
scramble for stop cock, internal one broke,
scramble for one in street, cacked up in mud, dig it out and 10 mins later get the water off.
by this time inside is wetter than loch ness
you've gotta drain down even if in worst case scenario you can turn it back off again if it does leak
Water pipes are usually buried between 750mm and 1200mm down, so the stop taps are often out of reach. They are that deep to avoid winter frosts.
A small gardening trowel or a large kitchen spoon firmly fixed to a broom handle can be useful for digging out a stop tap pit.
Next you may need a key for the stop tap. The extension bars from a socket set used upside down sometimes fit square headed spindles
Two long screws driven into the end of a piece of timber may help turn a 'T' handled valve.
A small gardening trowel or a large kitchen spoon firmly fixed to a broom handle can be useful for digging out a stop tap pit.
Next you may need a key for the stop tap. The extension bars from a socket set used upside down sometimes fit square headed spindles
Two long screws driven into the end of a piece of timber may help turn a 'T' handled valve.
L
longdogs
You could ask your water supplier to turn off the water for you - they will charge you and you will have a set time to fit your new isolator. Might be worth it though.
Freeze master to freeze incoming water main then fit new stopcock.
Or a 1m length of 40mm waste pipe work hammered into external stopcock pit, then pulled out and the waste pipe will be full of mud, remove the mud with a broom stick handle then repeat until you can see the stopcock.
Andy
Or a 1m length of 40mm waste pipe work hammered into external stopcock pit, then pulled out and the waste pipe will be full of mud, remove the mud with a broom stick handle then repeat until you can see the stopcock.
Andy
can only echo what everyone else has said:
keep digging to clear main stop tap outside so its clear and accesible. you can buy a tool for turning it off or you can cut a notch in the end of a plank of wood:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/plumbing-tools-by-rothenberger-universal-4-in-1-stopcock-key-36/40050#
once you can turn it off, drain down and fit an internal stop tap as well so if you get a leak you can turn it off straight away. Then and only then fit the dishwasher with a proper pushfit, compression or soldered joint.[/b]
keep digging to clear main stop tap outside so its clear and accesible. you can buy a tool for turning it off or you can cut a notch in the end of a plank of wood:
http://www.screwfix.com/p/plumbing-tools-by-rothenberger-universal-4-in-1-stopcock-key-36/40050#
once you can turn it off, drain down and fit an internal stop tap as well so if you get a leak you can turn it off straight away. Then and only then fit the dishwasher with a proper pushfit, compression or soldered joint.[/b]
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