Selling without kettle lead?

[PerlW90]

Can anyone advise if it's legal for a business to sell electrical items in the UK that plug in to a mains outlet via a detachable kettle lead, without actually supplying any kettle lead with the item?

 

[Mottie]

Why?

 

[PerlW90]

I'm just trying to find out what the regulations are on this.

 

[motorbiking]

Plugs and Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1994/1768/contents/made

talk to trading standards. There is a chance they weren't intended for UK market

 

[PerlW90]

Thanks for the link - I've had a look through it before but had trouble understanding if it applies to electricals that have a fully detachable power cord - for example things like PC power supply units or printers. The thing I'm asking about is actually a second hand item that was originally sold on the UK market (definitely UK spec), but no longer has its original power cable.

 

[motorbiking]

Still No - if its a a retailer.

 

[PerlW90]

I've had a browse around and it seems some PSUs are being sold without kettle leads, for example:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/CiT-400W-Silent-Power-Supply-x/dp/B0064A54XS

Or this one:

https://www.cclonline.com/product/81279/A-650BR/Power-Supplies/Ace-650W-BR-Black-PSU/PSU0350/

Is there some exception that allows these items to be sold without kettle leads?

 

[donrkebab]

Don't be messed around, sue them for every penny they've got.

 

[PerlW90]

Don't be messed around, sue them for every penny they've got.

Uhh???

 

[Jackrae]

In both your cited examples, they are not "final" user items (as is a kettle) but replacement components for use within a system assembly (a tower computer). When you buy a 12v 55w light bulb, unfortunately, you don't get the car attached to it

 

[donrkebab]

When you buy a 12v 55w light bulb, unfortunately, you don't get the car attached to it

You would get a choice of cars, if crhis grayling was running the shop.

 

[mattylad]

Motorbiking, where exactly in your linked regulation does it say that a type X supply lead MUST be supplied?

 

[JohnW2]

Can anyone advise if it's legal for a business to sell electrical items in the UK that plug in to a mains outlet via a detachable kettle lead, without actually supplying any kettle lead with the item?

This does seem to be a somewhat odd/trivial question (given the ready availability of such leads) but, if one is looking for legal technicalities, if it is sold without a kettle lead, then I suppose it could be argued that it was NOT (as sold) "an item which plugs into a mains outlet" - which might well mean that it didn't come within the scope of some of the legislation.

There certainly seem to be some items (particularly some ovens) which 'can' (if an appropriate lead and plug is added) be 'plugged into a mains outlet', but which are (seemingly legally) sold without any lead at all.

In terms of the spirit of the legislation ... this legislation really exists to avoid the situation (which was the norm in my youth) in which all electrical items were sold with leads but not plugs (just a bare end of the cable), leaving safety at the mercy of the purchaser/consumer who fitted a plug. If teh item is supplied without any fitted cable, then I wouldn't think it comes within that 'spirit' - but that, of course, does not necessarily mean that the law does not apply!

Kind Regards, John

 

[Mottie]

Perhaps if the OP gives us a link to the specific item that he is referring to, someone may be better able to advise him.

 

[motorbiking]

As per @Jackrae comment - see section 4(2) these are exempt
@mattylad see section 4(1) on

The regulations apply to finished goods not components. A PSU is a component. Its not straight forwards as there are other bits of law see also Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 as well as section 11 of the Consumer Protection Act 1987.