Septic Tank

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Hello all,

I am thinking about buying a house with a septic tank. Never owned one before.

I think I’ve found the cover for it, I’m doing an unescorted house viewing so have a good chance to snoop around.

Anyway, here is a picture. It shows a red clay pipe and there is a constant flow of water coming out and into the tank.

Is this normal?
 

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Flow rate into tank = flow rate out . Only time flow goes into tank should be when foul flow occurs from property i.e toilet/sink/bath/shower. Sounds as if there is ground water infiltration in to feed pipes and bottom of pipe blocked up due to septic tank not being emptied for a very long time.
 
Tell me more.
This is all new to me.
First off is this the actual septic tank? I know it’s hard to tell from one picture. I can send a video but this forum won’t let me post a video.

Second, yes in my mind I would have thought the only water entering a tank would be when the house was getting rid of foul water so was surprised to see this.
 
I’m going to say no.
In that case, I’m going to isolate the water to the house and see if it stops. If it stops, then this means water is somehow flowing from the house into the inlet pipe. Either passing toilet , toilets , or maybe a flat valve on the cold water tank being stuck and water going down the overflow.

Or

Rain water /ground water getting into the pipe. In my mind, this can only happen if the pipe is broken .

Would you say the above is correct?
 
First and foremost, if you've no experience with septic tanks, they are a deathtrap if poorly maintained, fall in and you are unlikely to be getting back out again. Ensure any covers and/or lids, (including roof of the tank) are solid, if in any doubt, secure the area from any possible intrusion, human or animal. Certainly wouldn't be wandering around on top of it, especially if alone.

Sewage produces Hydrogen Sulfide as part of the decomposition process, it's highly toxic, doesn't take much to kill you, and rots both metal and concrete, so don't assume the condition of anything, especially if you cant see it!

Various types and sizes have been built or installed over the years, from the early brick built type to the later 'Onion' shaped Glass fibre offerings from Klargester etc. All work on the same principle, raw sewage comes in, the solids are allowed to settle out, and the clarified effluent is discharged either into a leachfield/soakaway, or in some cases a nearby ditch or watercourse. However the Legal position for Septic Tank Owners has changed in recent years, and it may be wise to read up on the rules as if your installation isn't compliant, getting it so can become very expensive, very quickly!

Klargester's version is probably easier to navigate than the Environment Agency's but I'll link to both.



Remember, virtually everything going into the Tank will need to displace the equivalent volume back out, so rainwater and groundwater needs to be kept out of the system, otherwise you risk waterlogging the soakaway/leachfield, which will render the tank useless, and result in expensive Tankering on a constant basis. (It is illegal to remove effluent from a Septic Tank unless you are a Licenced Waste Carrier.) Solid matter doesn't simply 'disappear', it breaks down and forms sludge, it is this sludge then needs removing periodically, to maintain the health and functionality of the system. Failure to do so, will result in poor quality final effluent leaving the tank, carrying a higher suspended solids % than it should, which will then likely sludge up the soakaway, (more expensive repairs...)

Treatment of the Sewage in the tank relies completely on natural processes, with bacteria breaking down the solids to form sludge and helping to clarify the final effluent, these bugs are your friends, so be nice to them. Excessive usage of detergents, bleach, anything to kill bacteria in the home, will also kill them in the tank. No Bugs=no digestion=no effective treatment in the tank.

Lastly, if looked after, and provided the Soakaway works as it should, a well built/installed septic tank can give many years trouble free service. Need any more advice, come back and ask.
 
So, I turned off the water to the house. Waited for about 45 mins and went ti check. Water still flowing as per my video above.

It hasn’t rained for 2 days here in scotland , so would be amazed if it’s still ground water , either way, whatever it is, it’s not good for the tank, that much I have learned.

So it seems there is a bigger issue at play here, bigger being more expensive.

What’s a ball park figure for a water treatment plant these days? I heard about some free credit system but can’t find details for any in scotland.
 
Hi,
I turned off the main stock cock to isolate the whole house. It was still running.
 
I have a septic tank that half my roofs rainwater runs into as does my neighbours.It does not cause us any problems.
We also have an exemption certificate that allows us to discharge 4 cubic metres per day from the tank onto the surrounding land........no problems for us and it saves us £500+ a year in sewage charges..The tank has not been emptied for years.We don't use bleach etc.
 
Thanks,
This was running even when there had been no rain for well over 2 days. Just constant water running in as per the video. To me doesn’t seem right but maybe it is.
 
Could be groundwater, how high is the Water Table, what's the surrounding soil, number of variables that need taking into account. My area is heavy clay soils, number of tanks I've been to where the Soakaway was actually working in reverse, draining the surrounding soil back into the tank.

Tanks were permanently full, drainage was backing up to the property, arrived with the Tanker to start emptying the Septic Tank and as the level dropped, the flow could be seen/heard coming back in the outlet. Lot of the Villages struggled for many years, some now have gone onto a First Time mains sewerage scheme, which thankfully has alleviated their issues.

Issue will be for you, is the tank coping/will the tank cope? If the property is currently unoccupied it may be happily ticking over, arrival of people and additional foul flow into the tank may then become an issue.

Ball Park Figure for treatment plant? £4K? Again, many variables, access, ground conditions, soakaway requirement, will need a suitable power supply, etc. That many not solve the issue of the water ingress, best option for that, if groundwater, may likely be to either replace or line the pipework from property to the tank. Again, depending on depth, ground conditions etc will factor in the cost.
 

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