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We have a problem with a showeroom in which the pump now no longer delivers supply to an electic shower unit or a monobloc basin tap.
Back in January, after a week in the sun, we returned to an icy UK (-4 c), to find not a drop of water from the tap.
My first thought was a frozen pipe, but when I got to investigate, some 12 hrs later, the tap flowed & we thought all was good.
However, some hours later again, a further try was fruitless.
I checked the supply pipes - nothing frozen; power to pump good & no other apparent cause for the failure.
This showeroom was created c. 2005, with a Mira PP2 pump supplying CW only from the cistern, to an Aquatronic +1 electric shower. Cold to the basin & loo direct from the cistern & hot via a small boiler setup.
In 2020, I remodelled the space & extended the pumped supply to a monobloc mixer, with a diversion through a Stiebel Elton heater unit.
In the past 5+ years, this setup has never failed to supply - even after the reworking.
To date, I've stripped the pump (no fault found); fitted an air vent in the loop from the pump over & down to the outlets (no effect).
I've also jury rigged a pipe from the pump outlet into a bucket - I can get the pump to start by using a magnet to raise the float - but this is not continuous.
I have also removed the shower unit & tap tails to establish that there is a good flow through the pump that just will not kick in.
For reference, flow at the 15mm outlet to the shower unit is 7.2 l/m @ 2050mm below the cistern; flow from the flexible below the tap is 6 l/m @ 3350 below the cistern.
The heads concerned are: cistern/pump - 600mm; pump/showerhead - 1850mm: pump/tap - 3000mm.
Pump & cistern are directly over the room & pipe runs are minimal.
The takeaway is that:- I know the pump works; it had worked for many years & now, for some unexplained reason, we now have no supply to the room below & I'm baffled.
The only factor that might impact is the minimal head of the pump below the cistern.
I can't think of any other cause & I'm hoping that you good folks may be able to point me to a possible cause &/or fix.
Many thanks.
Back in January, after a week in the sun, we returned to an icy UK (-4 c), to find not a drop of water from the tap.
My first thought was a frozen pipe, but when I got to investigate, some 12 hrs later, the tap flowed & we thought all was good.
However, some hours later again, a further try was fruitless.
I checked the supply pipes - nothing frozen; power to pump good & no other apparent cause for the failure.
This showeroom was created c. 2005, with a Mira PP2 pump supplying CW only from the cistern, to an Aquatronic +1 electric shower. Cold to the basin & loo direct from the cistern & hot via a small boiler setup.
In 2020, I remodelled the space & extended the pumped supply to a monobloc mixer, with a diversion through a Stiebel Elton heater unit.
In the past 5+ years, this setup has never failed to supply - even after the reworking.
To date, I've stripped the pump (no fault found); fitted an air vent in the loop from the pump over & down to the outlets (no effect).
I've also jury rigged a pipe from the pump outlet into a bucket - I can get the pump to start by using a magnet to raise the float - but this is not continuous.
I have also removed the shower unit & tap tails to establish that there is a good flow through the pump that just will not kick in.
For reference, flow at the 15mm outlet to the shower unit is 7.2 l/m @ 2050mm below the cistern; flow from the flexible below the tap is 6 l/m @ 3350 below the cistern.
The heads concerned are: cistern/pump - 600mm; pump/showerhead - 1850mm: pump/tap - 3000mm.
Pump & cistern are directly over the room & pipe runs are minimal.
The takeaway is that:- I know the pump works; it had worked for many years & now, for some unexplained reason, we now have no supply to the room below & I'm baffled.
The only factor that might impact is the minimal head of the pump below the cistern.
I can't think of any other cause & I'm hoping that you good folks may be able to point me to a possible cause &/or fix.
Many thanks.