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[morqthana]

The problem is we have seen plenty of what you write and argue. From that we form opinions and it appears plenty of your work is just the opposite to your postulations.

If that is how it appears then that's 100% faulty perception.

Some say you spout a lot of rubbish, sometimes you come up with useful informative posts and the two seem to go in cycles, in other words periods of rubbish and periods of reasonable posts.

I would argue against that, but it doesn't matter. Even if someone thinks what I have written is biggest load of tosh they have ever seen why do they assume that I didn't really mean it, and that for my own amusement I wrote it in a cynical attempt to cause disruption, to provoke emotional responses?

These are multiple members opinions and yes we talk about you behind your back in the privacy of direct or private messages,

I can't decide if I should be flattered by that, or if it's one of the most pathetic things I have ever heard.

And do you discuss and analyse my posts, or do you discuss ways in which you might make constant complaints to the mods to get me shut down?

these opinions sticks and it takes effort for so many members to change their minds.

Effort which they are not prepared to make.

Oh - hang on - how much effort does it actually take for people to simply stop assuming that I don't really mean what I write, and that for my own amusement I write it in cynical attempts to cause disruption, to provoke emotional responses, whenever they don't like what I've written?

At the moment it only seems to be you having these relationship problems with other members,

I'm not aware of others constantly making such allegations about you that you find the need to defend yourself, why is it you find the need to regularly recycle this defensive question?

My history of being accused of trolling is mostly in GD, and I can assure you it was real, it was extensive, and that I was not the only poster there who was subjected to constant attack by a favoured clique who simply did not want to see the posting of political or social opinions at odds with theirs. Accept that people have different opinions? No, they didn't want to do that. Discuss the issues intelligently? No, they didn't want to do that. Provide evidence to show the truth of their claims about something? No, they didn't want to do that. Turn GD into an echo-chamber where everyone just nods in agreement with illiberal/bigoted/hateful/ignorant opinions? Oh yes, they very much wanted that.

And I don't want to see those same tactics imported to Electrics.

The line from Hamlet yet again springs to mind: "The lady doth protest too much methinks."

You may be certain that if I am falsely accused of trolling, or wind-ups, I will protest that.

We all have differences of opinions but fortunately we have come to accept those

Deciding that someone who expresses a different opinion is trolling, or winding people up, is the very opposite of acceptance.

 

[SUNRAY]

And I don't want to see those same tactics imported to Electrics.

But it seems that currently you are pretty much the only person with these problems.

Without your input we would be able to offer sensible advice without it being compromised.

 

[morqthana]

But it seems that currently you are pretty much the only person with these problems.

I didn't have them on this forum until you decided to bring them here.

You know i was on a windup

Such an action is so utterly foreign to me that it never occurs to me that other people might think it's an OK thing to do.

Ohhhh I see, many of us thought it's something you do on a regular basis.

Why did you decide to start that gratuitous attack?

Without your input we would be able to offer sensible advice without it being compromised.

Please show what sensible advice I have compromised.

 

[SUNRAY]

I didn't have them on this forum until you decided to bring them here.

Scuse I... the criticisms of you didn't start with me, I treat everyone the same way and gradually form a virtual image of them, despite what others were already saying I was hanging on to working out if they were correct.

Why did you decide to start that gratuitous attack?

There you are getting it wrong again, it's an observation not an attack.

Please show what sensible advice I have compromised.

Probably 25% of those you've posted in.

Such as moving socket, where the poor OP had abandoned his thread while you dispute a junction box is an electrical accessory.

 

[morqthana]

Scuse I... the criticisms of you didn't start with me,

The first critical post here was

Try giving a solution instead of picking on other people's suggestions.

And had I picked on someone else's suggestion? No, I had not.

Had foxhole done that? Yes, he had.

Had I in fact pulled him up for what I believed was his unjustified "picking on other people's suggestions"? Yes, I had.

But like you, Pete sometimes only sees what he wants to see.

I treat everyone the same way and gradually form a virtual image of them, despite what others were already saying I was hanging on to working out if they were correct.

Just what is driving all these people to spend their time talking about whether I genuinely mean what I write, or whether I don't, but am posting cynically, and insincerely, just to cause disruption or provoke emotional responses, for my own amusement?

Who are they? Why do you partake in this collective exercise of imaginary constructions?

There you are getting it wrong again, it's an observation not an attack.

Really.

OK,

So why did you decide to make this gratuitous observation in this thread?

You know i was on a windup

Such an action is so utterly foreign to me that it never occurs to me that other people might think it's an OK thing to do.

Ohhhh I see, many of us thought it's something you do on a regular basis.

Probably 25% of those you've posted in.

I've posted in about 395 threads (if the search is working).

So in almost 100 I've "compromised sensible advice".

Given what "compromised" means

I hope you can prove that, and that your "observation" is not based on something you've just imagined.

Such as moving socket, where the poor OP had abandoned his thread while you dispute a junction box is an electrical accessory.

See my reply there.

 

[SUNRAY]

Why did you decide to start that gratuitous attack?

So why did you decide to make this gratuitous observation in this thread?

Still an observation and not a attack but at least you have changed your accusation and admit you have been wrong, that's a start

Another observation: maybe more than 25% of you posts are equally gratuitous

See my reply there.

May I assume you are asking me to go to the reply where you dispute a junction box is an electrical accessory?

 

[morqthana]

Still an observation and not a attack but at least you have changed your accusation and admit you have been wrong, that's a start

I just used your word, to see if you could justify it when it had the label you disingenuously want to give it.

An "observation" that I'm regularly dishonest is an attack.

Another observation: maybe more than 25% of you posts are equally gratuitous

Is that observation backed up by any evidence which would withstand intelligent, disinterested, examination?

May I assume you are asking me to go to the reply where you dispute a junction box is an electrical accessory?

Can you show where I have disputed that a junction box is an electrical accessory?

 

[endecotp]

<ignore> <ignore>

 

[denso13]

<ignore> <ignore>

It's his MO unfortunately, always has been with previous usernames as well.

But of course, although only he causes these types of back and forth, It can't be his fault.

 

[endecotp]

It's his MO unfortunately

Note there was more than one <ignore> there.