Starmer's treachery

I think you're thinking that there's some kind of shadowy alliance of everyone that has any opinion that disagrees with whatever you think about anything.

Sadly this is the way politicians and the media are going. Seemingly anyone anti-immigration must be pro-Israel. Anyone pro-gay must, bizarrely and contradictingly, be pro-muslim.

Logic and common sense is rapidly vanishing from almost all debates. Which is why I'm intrigued by who you think "them" is - I suspect it's the "far right" cartoon characters you've been conditioned to believe in, which don't actually exist.
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
I suspect it's the "far right" cartoon characters you've been conditioned to believe in, which don't actually exist.
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Is there no far right in the UK at all? I'm assuming you meant something different, but can you name anyone you would class as far right in UK politics or public life?
 
Ivor Windybottom said:
I think you're thinking that there's some kind of shadowy alliance of everyone that has any opinion that disagrees with whatever you think about anything.

Sadly this is the way politicians and the media are going. Seemingly anyone anti-immigration must be pro-Israel. Anyone pro-gay must, bizarrely and contradictingly, be pro-muslim.

Logic and common sense is rapidly vanishing from almost all debates. Which is why I'm intrigued by who you think "them" is - I suspect it's the "far right" cartoon characters you've been conditioned to believe in, which don't actually exist.
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There's definitely no common sense in any of those 3 paragraphs.
 
ellal said:
Yep, the rubbish that dribbles from your collective lips never stops ;)
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Oh dear
blup said:
You mean the herd mentality that says give Nige a chance
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Oh dear me, the usual banter on here, i haven't missed it as ive spent some time with my families children dealing with equally banal tripe and here we are.

Anyway, it does make me laugh how much some of you get upset over MBK who does generally run rings round most of you, hence your frustration i get it, resorting to just plain name calling insults.

And the heard mentality says give Nige a chance.. interesting observation, this is akin to the hurd menatilty who said 'yeah lets give Starmer a chance' eg it can't be worse than what we have currently, i get it, however we have discovered it is worse. The main reason, akin to the downfall of many superstars in this world is they start to believe in themselves too much... and it all goes pear shaped.

We lunged from from a party that literally did **** all with a buffling buffoon at the helm to a bunch of amateur parish councillors with power making wrong decision after wrong decision, 'taking children out of poverty' omfg, you bnhc of ****s. Its all abou taking off the hard working poor (already over taxed, not even a relief from Fuel right now how fcked up is that) and giving to the 'none working' money savy and the poor.

Give Nige a chance? No id rather not to be honest as much as a believe reform policy is good, so far its alot of hot air, but the policy is right, quite frankly i prefer the serious stance that Ruper Lowe has, im sure that has a few of you crying right now, the problem IS we are completely taken for a ride in England, its utterly shameful. You all go on saying yeah its all propaganda, take a proper ganda at the stats and population shifts in this country, and projections. Liebour will be toppled soon by a religious party they've been almost used up.

No its not racist, the problem is anything that the average chanting lefty doesnt like they brand as racist.
Do i believe removing the cap on children welfare is wrong, 100% yes, i guess again i am childrenaphobic no doubt, its such flawed logic.
 
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