Telephone junction box HELP NEEDED

[HawkEye244]

Hi chaps,

I accidentally cut the telephone cable today as the old lady wanted an old unused bell box removed from inside the cupboard.

I've bought a junction box (in the picture).

I need help understanding how to wire this up correctly.

For some reason the internet is working, but the telephones are not

 

[bernardgreen]

The incoming telephone pair from the exchange will almost certainly be the Orange and Blue.

The pair carrying the phone service to the phones will most probably be the Orange with White and White with Orange

So join the White with Orange to the Blue from the exchange.

You already have Orange with White connected to Orange from the exchange and as Broadband ( ADSL ) can work with just one wire.

EDIT, the pair to the telephone could be the Blue with White and White with Blue. If connecting the Orange / White pair to Orange and Blue doesn't get the phones working try connect the Blue / White pair to the Orange and Blue instead of the Orange / White pair.

 

[OwainDIYer]

Old bell boxes can go for good money on ebay.

 

[HawkEye244]

The incoming telephone pair from the exchange will almost certainly be the Orange and Blue.

The pair carrying the phone service to the phones will most probably be the Orange with White and White with Orange

So join the White with Orange to the Blue from the exchange.

You already have Orange with White connected to Orange from the exchange and as Broadband ( ADSL ) can work with just one wire.

EDIT, the pair to the telephone could be the Blue with White and White with Blue. If connecting the Orange / White pair to Orange and Blue doesn't get the phones working try connect the Blue / White pair to the Orange and Blue instead of the Orange / White pair.

Turned out the ADSL is operting from one cable, and so is the telephone line, exactly as you said.

What are the other cables used for then ?

If I upgraded the telephone cable to cat 5, would everything work faster ?

 

[HawkEye244]

Old bell boxes can go for good money on ebay.

Thanks, I searched on ebay but only found vintage ones, this is an old plastic brown thing, must be around 1950-60, binned it

 

[bernardgreen]

Most drop wire ( the cable that brings the phone line to a house ) is two pair ( four wires ) so that a second phone line can be connected without having to run in another cable.

The cable to the house ( in your case ) is four pair. Mostly it is 2 pair or three pair. Original BT compatible plug in phone used three wires, two for speech dialling etc and the third was the bell wire connected to one of the other two wires by a capacitor which allows only the AC ringing current to get to the bell. Most modern phones have that capacitor inside them so do not need the third wire.

 

[billy1smart]

HAVE YOU GOT IT WORKING NOW .

 

[HawkEye244]

Yes Billy, as I said the broadband was operating on one cable and the telephone on another.

I re-configured the wires within the junction box and re-routed everything neatly minus the old bellbox.

I've since hard wired two cat 5 sockets for the broadband as cables were running along the floor for many years.

I have a call blocker installed which is causing some interference on the line though, a crackling waterfall sort of noise, which only disappears when the device is removed, but that's a seperate issue.

Do you want an updated photo of the junction box ?