the trade war heats up: China stops exports of gallium, germanium, antimony, graphite, and tungsten to USA

[fillyboy]

Do you really think USA under trump is our friend ?

And we now aren't big enough to not need friends.

So it comes down to who is doing us least harm. Pick your side, but it looks like around the world China is going to pick up what USA is dropping.

At this precise point in time I don't think either China or America are our friends, the EU even less so.

But, as you say, we aren't big enough to not need a powerful ally.

 

[fillyboy]

I actually trust the EU more than either China or USA now.

Yeah let's have a military alliance. But first agree to be subjucated to the European courts and hand over you're fishing grounds.

 

[denso13]

Is that really what you want?

I think that is going too far, but, if that's the case, Trump is helping them along. China are being seen as the good guys in the tariffs war and more countries, especially in Asia/Pacific will see China as the better option.

Trump has thrown America's reputation down the drain.

 

[denso13]

But first agree to be subjucated to the European courts and hand over you're fishing grounds

Have they said that?

 

[MNW67]

Yeah let's have a military alliance. But first agree to be subjucated to the European courts and hand over you're fishing grounds.

It might be the least bad option.

 

[fillyboy]

I think that is going too far, but, if that's the case, Trump is helping them along. China are being seen as the good guys in the tariffs war and more countries, especially in Asia/Pacific will see China as the better option.

Trump has thrown America's reputation down the drain.

I don't think anything I suggested is going too far, we are possibly on the verge of a new world order, it's been on the cards a long time.

Pick a side, we'll all have to eventually.

 

[denso13]

Pick a side, we'll all have to eventually.

Anyone but America, for the next 3 and a bit years at least.

 

[fillyboy]

Have they said that?

Yes, two weeks ago. Macron was behind the fisheries demand but other European countries are trying to override him on that one.

The world's not a friendly place at the moment,.

 

[noseall]

If he's not trying to dismantle globalisation what's all the fuss about, read the room.

Utter bollax. You give your hero Trump too much credit. He speaks only for the US (billionares) and has no sway over what path the EU, the UK or where the rest of the world choose to go. And the world will be rid of the orange rapist in 3.5 years, if he lives that long.

Taking a sledgehammer to globalisation my arse.

 

[denso13]

Yes, two weeks ago.

Not any more seemingly, https://archive.ph/fiudZ

 

[fillyboy]

He speaks only for the US (billionares) and has no sway over what path the EU, the UK or where the rest of the world choose to go.

And lo and behold as the net zero targets rolled backwards, and men became men and women became women.

 

[denso13]

And lo and behold as the net zero targets rolled backwards, and men became men and women became women.

You think Trump did that?

 

[fillyboy]

You think Trump did that?

No, it's just a coincidence that we followed his lead and will probably continue to do so, as will Europe.

 

[denso13]

No, it's just a coincidence that we followed his lead and will probably continue to do so, as will Europe.

Our Supreme Court followed Trump? Wow...

 

[denso13]

it's just a coincidence that we followed his lead

Way before Trump came to office,

Rishi Sunak confirms rollback of key green targets - Carbon Brief

UK prime minister Rishi Sunak has announced a major u-turn on the government’s climate commitments, reports the Guardian.

www.carbonbrief.org