They Shoot Horses, don't they?

[ajohn]

Passed with a 55 majority.

 

[Notch7]

Keir Starmer voted in favour.

Not sure how the Tory Labour numbers were split though

 

[ellal]

Pleasantly surprised at the vote...

Of course it's just the first stage and it could get bogged down in endless debate...

But for the first time an affirmative result on this issue which is a good thing...

Ironic that a major campaigner who has brought this to the fore is Esther Rantzen...

That's Life!

 

[ellal]

Keir Starmer voted in favour.

Not sure how the Tory Labour numbers were split though

Link

For the bill

Conservatives: 23

Independent: 1

Greens: 4

Labour: 234

Lib Dems: 61

Plaid Cymru: 3

Reform UK: 3

SDLP: 1



Against the bill

Alliance: 1

Conservatives: 92

DUP: 5

Independents: 14

Labour: 147

Lib Dems: 11

Plaid Cymru: 1

Reform UK: 2

TUV: 1

UUP: 1



Did not vote

Conservatives: 3

Deputy Speakers: 3

Labour: 18

SNP: 9

Sinn Fêin: 7

SDLP: 1

Speaker: 1

 

[motorbiking]

It is, they just better sort out the process.

 

[Vinty]

Another nail in the coffin of Britain (no pun intended).

 

[Vinty]

In practice many will make the decision weeks or days away from expected death, so there will simply not be enough time to go through all the procedural hoops.

When abortion was legalised it was supposed to be strictly controlled.
Nowadays it's just another form of birth control.
This bloke is 100% correct.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Another nail in the coffin of Britain (no pun intended).

A long way to go yet

But some people will be able to choose their coffins and make their plans before they are in too much pain to be able to do anything.

It's a choice, it's not compulsory.

 

[Murdochcat]

Last time a bill came forward on this subject it passed the first vote

BUT

when it came back to the hoc it was voted out

 

[Vinty]

And yes as a nation we are poorly informed, and poor at critical thinking

That would explain the large labour majority in Parliament then.lol.

 

[denso13]

Nowadays it's just another form of birth control.

Even if that were true, so what? Society has chosen which way to go.

 

[ellal]

When abortion was legalised it was supposed to be strictly controlled.
Nowadays it's just another form of birth control.

Actually birth control is defined as preventing a pregnancy...

Abortion is defined as stopping an existing pregnancy from continuing for whatever reason...

Only a crazy 'pro lifer' who would refuse to allow the right of a woman to control her own body could confuse the two because of their ideology!

 

[Vinty]

Actually birth control is defined as preventing a pregnancy...

You are into semantics now.
Killing an unborn child because it isn't wanted is also birth control.

 

[Vinty]

Even if that were true, so what? Society has chosen which way to go.

True.
That's why society is going down the tubes.

 

[blup]

When abortion was legalised it was supposed to be strictly controlled.
Nowadays it's just another form of birth control.
This bloke is 100% correct.

Whatever language you use the killing of born and unborn is now legal. The argument is essentially that the state shouldn’t interfere with the exercise of personal morality, so it can only be a matter of time before the law extends to children and the mentally incapacitated