They Shoot Horses, don't they?

[Notch7]

We will probably end up with a waiting list to die next.

I think you will find that’s a list every one of us is on.

 

[Highway Man]

I think you will find that’s a list every one of us is on.

True

 

[blup]

That’s a negative way of framing it.

Perhaps you should frame it as an opportunity for a person with a terminal illness to have a more dignified death.

The State is now saying it’s socially acceptable to take your own life and we will show our approval by getting doctors and nurses to give you the fatal dose. And at the same time it criminalises people who encourage others to take their own life in the name of online safety.

Most end of life nurses support it.

I don’t believe that’s true of palliative care nurses

 

[Odds]

I was thinking of all of them, more Labor if anything. But in a world where it’s a justified tactic of war to eviscerate children, it probably seemed churlish not to help people kill themselves.

People with a diagnosed terminal illness with less than six months to live in the professional opinion of qualified doctors. You're still making this sound like Logan's Run.

You can almost see the first half dozen google search returns already purchased by the private sector keen to help with paperwork for a not so modest fee.

I'm sure they will, as the Lords will scrutinise the bill closely to ensure no loopholes can be exploited by a private company. There's plenty of data available from countries around the world who've successfully implemented this policy without a problem.

 

[blup]

People with a diagnosed terminal illness with less than six months to live in the professional opinion of qualified doctors. You're still making this sound like Logan's Run.

Don’t underestimate an Englishman’s desire to get their hands on a relatives money

I'm sure they will, as the Lords will scrutinise the bill closely to ensure no loopholes can be exploited by a private company. There's plenty of data available from countries around the world who've successfully implemented this policy without a problem.

It’s called death on demand, what could be simpler.

 

[Notch7]

The State is now saying it’s socially acceptable to take your own life and we will show our approval by getting doctors and nurses to give you the fatal dose

Do you understand the difference between a person who is terminally ill, wanting to choose a dignified death is different to a person who wants to commit suicide?

And at the same time it criminalises people who encourage others to take their own life in the name of online safety.

Do you think people should be allowed to encourage others to commit suicide?

Do you accept a terminally person is very different to a person who is healthy but wants suicide for mental health reasons

 

[Notch7]

Don’t underestimate an Englishman’s desire to get their hands on a relatives money

That is just one point of many.

We must consider the rights of terminally I'll people that are suffering

 

[Notch7]

It’s called death on demand, what could be simpler

Do you think people who are in the process of suffering months of pain who going to die soon should be forced to suffer and suffer?


Do you realise the NHS routinely puts people on a pathway to dying already by withholding water, food, medicine.

People dying of cancer get ever increasing doses of morphine.

 

[Notch7]

I don’t believe that’s true of palliative care nurses

They see the suffering everyday.

And many support the bill, most I believe.

 

[Mottie]

People dying of cancer get ever increasing doses of morphine.

I’m pretty sure my father in law in his final stages was helped on his way with a large shot of morphine by a sympathetic doctor. In his final weeks, he was saying if he had a gun he would shoot himself. He would have taken an early way out if it was availible to him.

Do you realise the NHS routinely puts people on a pathway to dying already by withholding water, food, medicine.

Mrs Motties friends husband who was riddled with cancer had that happen at 35 years old. It took him ages to die.

 

[blup]

Do you think people who are in the process of suffering months of pain who going to die soon should be forced to suffer and suffer?

They are not being forced, it’s part of the difficult exit from the world that many go through with appropriate support snd pain control.

Do you realise the NHS routinely puts people on a pathway to dying already by withholding water, food, medicine.

The Liverpool pathway as applied in practice was pretty brutal. It is not pleasant seeing someone desperate for water. Thankfully that system has ended

People dying of cancer get ever increasing doses of morphine.

To deal with pain but also as a final release.

 

[denso13]

I’m pretty sure my father in law in his final stages was helped on his way with a large shot of morphine by a sympathetic doctor. In his final weeks,

Same here with mother and mother in law, except it was only days, the knew exactly what the were doing. I'm not complaining.

I just hope there are enough safeguards in the new proposals.