Toilet pan connector allignment

[Mrxman]

Hi There

I am installing our new back to wall toilet very soon and wondering what toilet pan connector would be best.

The toilet will be installed against a 'cistern box' which I am building. The toilet outlet will have a 90 degree sideways toilet pan connector bend. The distance to soil pipe is between 20-30 cm.

The options:

1) Rigid pan connector: My concern is that since the soil pipe comes out of the wall at a slight horizontal angle, I won't be able to push the pan connector in straight. In other words it will be slighly missaligned given that the toilet itself will be possitioned straight.

2) Flexible pan connector. I've heard they're not always as reliable but they could solve a problem.

Any thoughts on this?

Many thanks

 

[Madrab]

Unless the pan is straight in line out the wall then a normal pan connector can become loose/detached when push back a back to the wall pan.

The McAlpine BTW flexible connector (WC-F21R) is perfect as it comes with a jubilee band that tightens onto the toilet spigot so when you push it back it won't become disconnected. You will get mixed reviews about flexi pans though and if the toilet is on the ground floor of an older property then they can become susceptible to rodent damage if there is a problems with vermin - older houses with older drains tend to be more at risk.

You also really need to be able to leave the front panel or at least a part of it off when pushing the pan back to ensure the the flush pipe is inserted properly and if using a rigid pipe that the connector is on properly.

 

[Mrxman]

Unless the pan is straight in line out the wall then a normal pan connector can become loose/detached when push back a back to the wall pan.

The McAlpine BTW flexible connector (WC-F21R) is perfect as it comes with a jubilee band that tightens onto the toilet spigot so when you push it back it won't become disconnected. You will get mixed reviews about flexi pans though and if the toilet is on the ground floor of an older property then they can become susceptible to rodent damage if there is a problems with vermin - older houses with older drains tend to be more at risk.

You also really need to be able to leave the front panel or at least a part of it off when pushing the pan back to ensure the the flush pipe is inserted properly and if using a rigid pipe that the connector is on properly.

Thanks for recommendation. That looks perfect. Our bathroom is on first floor. Had a mouse lurking about once but that's about it.

I intend to design the box so the panels can come of easily so hopefully it will work well. Thanks for info.

 

[Mrxman]

Unless the pan is straight in line out the wall then a normal pan connector can become loose/detached when push back a back to the wall pan.

The McAlpine BTW flexible connector (WC-F21R) is perfect as it comes with a jubilee band that tightens onto the toilet spigot so when you push it back it won't become disconnected. You will get mixed reviews about flexi pans though and if the toilet is on the ground floor of an older property then they can become susceptible to rodent damage if there is a problems with vermin - older houses with older drains tend to be more at risk.

You also really need to be able to leave the front panel or at least a part of it off when pushing the pan back to ensure the the flush pipe is inserted properly and if using a rigid pipe that the connector is on properly.

One more question if you don't mind:

Regarding the WC-F21R, is it o.k to do a horizontal 90 degree bend with this one or is it better to buy a flexible pan connector that is angled?

Thanks

 

[Madrab]

Depends - if you are looking to use the connector to fix to the pan spigot utilising the jubilee band then yes - just need to make sure the bend isn't putting any stress or pulling the connector out of shape or changing the fall by doing so.

If the bend is too tight and the connector won't stay in position properly then an angled connector may be needed with the drawback that it won't have the band to secure the spigot end.

 

[Mrxman]

Depends - if you are looking to use the connector to fix to the pan spigot utilising the jubilee band then yes - just need to make sure the bend isn't putting any stress or pulling the connector out of shape or changing the fall by doing so.

If the bend is too tight and the connector won't stay in position properly then an angled connector may be needed with the drawback that it won't have the band to secure the spigot end.

That makes sense. Think I'll give the WC-F21R a go. Strange that they don't make all connectors with a jubilee band.

 

[Madrab]

That makes sense. Think I'll give the WC-F21R a go. Strange that they don't make all connectors with a jubilee band.

Yes, I know what you mean, it would make sense, guess it's a case of, if it works then no need to change it.

With using rigid connectors where a lot of toilets aren't dead straight on then the rubber type pan spigot seal still allows a bit of offset wiggle room but still retain the seal.

 

[Mrxman]

Yes, I know what you mean, it would make sense, guess it's a case of, if it works then no need to change it.

With using rigid connectors where a lot of toilets aren't dead straight on then the rubber type pan spigot seal still allows a bit of offset wiggle room but still retain the seal.

O.k. That's useful to know. Need to lay vinyl flooring first so have a bit of time to consider all options.

Thanks again for info.