Toilet soil pipe - help, advice please

[NickB_99]

Hi,
In the process of replacing toilet and sink in cloakroom.

Wasn't happy with the amount of mould etc round the soil pipe and figured I should tackle the apparent leak before adding the new pan.

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• NickB_99
• 30 Dec 2014
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Having pulled back the floor and cleaned it, not impressed with what I've found.

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• NickB_99
• 24 Jan 2015
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• NickB_99
• 24 Jan 2015
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There are some gaps, but during flushing, water is noticeably seeping through in the middle of the pic, the beige area where the salt glazed pipe had been broken.
It looks like there is the remains of expanding foam or something behind.

I'm after some advice on a fix for this. Can I put some mortar with waterproofer in it to fill the gaps? Or is there a decent sealant/filler that would be an alternative?

 

[Nige F]

All you need is a pan connector with a longer spigot - it will go down past that mess which can be removed

 

[NickB_99]

All you need is a pan connector with a longer spigot - it will go down past that mess which can be removed

Thanks for the prompt reply.

I got a longer replacement 90 deg pan connector (http://m.screwfix.com/p/mcalpine-macfit-90-wc-long-pan-connector/95284?filtered=true)
I had thought it was too long for direct replacement of existing and was thinking of swapping, but sounds like it's perhaps right.

To remove the existing mess, would you take down to floor level?
Any tips to take away existing? Angle grinder to part cut the collar just below the cemented part?

 

[Nige F]

yes take down to floor level - pull out pan connector - stuff pipe with rag or paper - remove old pipe socket with hammer + chisel gently IF the floor is concrete. If it's wooden you'll need the angle grinder

 

[NickB_99]

Thought I'd post an update - taking off to floor level was definitely the best course of action.
Looks like a bag had been stuffed in to sit the cement on, but the collar was incomplete, leaking and the bag was restricting the diameter.

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• NickB_99
• 7 Feb 2015
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• NickB_99
• 7 Feb 2015
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There is a decent vertical drop so I got an extension piece so when I fit the 90 deg connector, it will reach further.

 

[Nige F]

Thanks for the update - not surprised to see the bag . Once you've got the connector in you can fill the gap level with the floor .You might like to put the pan On Top of new floorcovering - easier for the floorlayer and more hygeinic I think

 

[NickB_99]

You might like to put the pan On Top of new floorcovering - easier for the floorlayer and more hygeinic I think

Was definitely the best approach. Had to piece in some new without a click joint, but looks ok.

Finally finished the job this eve - taken me a while, full time work gets in the way!

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• NickB_99
• 6 Mar 2015
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For first ever plumbing a loo and sink, pleased with the result.
Again, the advice given on the forum been invaluable - thanks all!

 

[honda]

Looks like a nice job...........Plenty of reading material too

 

[Bilabong007]

Hey mate if you did all that yourself you need to change username

Nice work!

Graeme