Tragic Migrant deaths, Freezer container or boat..... easily avoidable

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Can you imagine a worse death ? In the dark, no escape and freezing and knowing your freezing to death ? Tragic and terrible.

Taking to the chanel in an inflatable ? Imagine the risk.

These tragic deaths are easily avoidable ......remember the boat people trying to get into Australia a few years back ? It used to be on the news ......

Australia stopped it dead in its tracks .......the message " You arrive illegally by boat you will never be granted citizenship ".

The people smugglers pray on the hopes of desparate people seeking a better life.
Take away their selling point.
The government should issue a similar notice " Arrive in this country illegally and you will never be granted citizenship. You will be deported "

The message should be clear and strong, only legitimate asylum seekers or migrants will be considered and accepted, all illegal applications will be rejected.

So these unfortunate people will not trust the false promises of traffickers.
The government should put out these notices in the press in foreign lands.

It worked for Australia.
 
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And make the penalty of being a people trafficker so severe it would be a deterrent 15 years mimimum.

Employers of illegal immigrants should also be made to suffer the full weight of the law, if proved they willingly took advantage of slave labour their buisnesses confiscated. And personal assets siezed as proceeds of crime.

Living off the misery of others should be really penalised.
 
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Australia stopped it dead in its tracks .......the message " You arrive illegally by boat you will never be granted citizenship ".


That was a one off. Plenty of other boats get through. Australias costsline is so big.
More illegal immigration comes through the airports into Australia, and people overstaying their visas.
 
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And make the penalty of being a people trafficker so severe it would be a deterrent 15 years mimimum.

Employers of illegal immigrants should also be made to suffer the full weight of the law, if proved they willingly took advantage of slave labour their buisnesses confiscated. And personal assets siezed as proceeds of crime.

Living off the misery of others should be really penalised.

Good luck with bringing a worldwide operation to justice.......
 
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Bodd

And make the penalty of being a people trafficker so severe it would be a deterrent 15 years mimimum.

Employers of illegal immigrants should also be made to suffer the full weight of the law, if proved they willingly took advantage of slave labour their buisnesses confiscated. And personal assets siezed as proceeds of crime.

Living off the misery of others should be really penalised.


I agree with you in most... But Australia can not deport somone just like that if they make it to the main land
 
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Bodd

Good luck with bringing a worldwide operation to justice.......

This needs controlling. People are getting rich and people are dying.

Like applying for a work visa applicants can't get the visa in the country they wish to work or live. They must apply in a neutral country if not your own.
 
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We just need an island where we can dump them like the Aussies do in Nauru and Manus - so Isle of White and Isle of Man? Jersey perhaps?

Could work.
 
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We just need an island where we can dump them like the Aussies do in Nauru and Manus - so Isle of White and Isle of Man? Jersey perhaps?

Could work.

There are several hundred islands around the UK.
 

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severe it would be a deterrent

Severity is not a deterrent.

What's the maximum penalty for smoking?

Death

In a long, slow, painful and humiliating way.

Did that stop people smoking?

No.

Certainty, immediacy and personal effect are deterrent.

"If you light a cigarette in this bar you will be thrown out."

"If you light a cigarette in the workplace you will be sacked."



Work.
 
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We just need an island where we can dump them like the Aussies do in Nauru and Manus - so Isle of White and Isle of Man? Jersey perhaps?

Could work.


As long as they are treated with respect and looked after. I think you right. But don't think the Isle"s will be happy about it.
 
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We just need an island where we can dump them like the Aussies do in Nauru and Manus - so Isle of White and Isle of Man? Jersey perhaps?

Could work.
where Motman lives -he says its full of foreign criminals so they should fit right in
 
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Severity is not a deterrent.

What's the maximum penalty for smoking?

Death

In a long, slow, painful and humiliating way.

Did that stop people smoking?

No.

Certainty, immediacy and personal effect are deterrent.

"If you light a cigarette in this bar you will be thrown out."

"If you light a cigarette in the workplace you will be sacked."



Work.

What's the certain penalty for living?
 

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Interesting documentary / interview with a guy who travelled from Syriah - he said even though the journey was hell and people die on the way, he'd do it all over again. The alternative is worst then the risk of travel. Yes, some of these people are economic immigrants. But many are slaves, and many are fleeing persecution and war. We cannot treat them all the same without becoming totally inhumane.
 
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