Transsexual to learn breast op cash ruling

[LastMagicBean]

You can get Viagra on the NHS too - is that essential?

Nope, recreational.

It should be on general sale in every chemist, supermarket, petrol station in the land.

It's been on sale in bags, in pubs for years.

 

[Blasphemous]

as to this chap/ess wanting breasts he can have my moobs free of charge if he likes,

Anyway, sanity prevailed...

Transsexual loses breast op battle

A transsexual has lost an Appeal Court battle in her bid to obtain NHS funding for a breast enlargement operation.
The 59-year-old, referred to as "C", who suffers from gender identity dysphoria and cannot be named for legal reasons, had challenged a decision of West Berkshire Primary Care Trust (PCT) not to provide the money.

Three appeal judges have ruled that the decision was one the PCT was entitled to reach and not irrational.

C, who lives in the Reading area, was born male but has been living as a woman for more than a decade.

Despite hormone treatment which began in 1996, her breasts have failed to develop to a size "appropriate to her size and frame", leaving her feeling that she has not completed her transition from male to female, said her lawyers.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110311/tuk-transsexual-loses-breast-op-battle-dba1618.html

 

[Mickymoody]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

I agree with Joe for once.

Elderly people in hospital, that are terminally ill, they know it, the Doctors know it. But the Doctors duty is to support life. Which they know is impossible. So to sustain life, when the patient wants out, surely is wrong.

Waste of money, and time. If someone is dying, let them die, not use machines to let them live. In the hope some miracle cure comes along.

Plus bed blocking, as they are unable to return to their house, due to the inability to move, let people die a dignified death, not artificially pump them full of drugs, to maintain a non life..

 

[Blasphemous]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

I agree with Joe for once.

Elderly people in hospital, that are terminally ill, they know it, the Doctors know it. But the Doctors duty is to support life. Which they know is impossible. So to sustain life, when the patient wants out, surely is wrong.

Waste of money, and time. If someone is dying, let them die, not use machines to let them live. In the hope some miracle cure comes along.

Plus bed blocking, as they are unable to return to their house, due to the inability to move, let people die a dignified death, not artificially pump them full of drugs, to maintain a non life..

He didn't say elderly people who are in hospital 'terminally ill' though did he? He said, 'elderly people who've had their lives'.

 

[Nige F]

I think that was said a few years ago - with other slogans like; Strength through Joy, and Work will set you free.

 

[joe-90]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

I agree with Joe for once.

Elderly people in hospital, that are terminally ill, they know it, the Doctors know it. But the Doctors duty is to support life. Which they know is impossible. So to sustain life, when the patient wants out, surely is wrong.

Waste of money, and time. If someone is dying, let them die, not use machines to let them live. In the hope some miracle cure comes along.

Plus bed blocking, as they are unable to return to their house, due to the inability to move, let people die a dignified death, not artificially pump them full of drugs, to maintain a non life..

He didn't say elderly people who are in hospital 'terminally ill' though did he? He said, 'elderly people who've had their lives'.

But that's what I meant. Beyond hope of a cure.

 

[Blasphemous]

But that's what I meant. Beyond hope of a cure.

Ah then that's a different aspect. Saying 'elderly people who've had their lives', is bound to raise questions of 'when' is a life spent and 'who' decides that.

So do you have plans in place for if/when you become 'terminally ill' Joe?

 

[joe-90]

Yes. Enough dihydrocodiene to despatch me 10 times over.

 

[Blasphemous]

Yes. Enough dihydrocodiene to despatch me 10 times over.

Who's going to administer it though mate? If you're 'terminally ill' it's possible you'd have lost the physical and/or mental ability to carry out such a task. And if a family and/or friend had the courage and compassion to carry out that final act they'd be liable to prosecution. In this country they'd probably get a longer sentence than a rapist!

 

[Mickymoody]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

I agree with Joe for once.

Elderly people in hospital, that are terminally ill, they know it, the Doctors know it. But the Doctors duty is to support life. Which they know is impossible. So to sustain life, when the patient wants out, surely is wrong.

Waste of money, and time. If someone is dying, let them die, not use machines to let them live. In the hope some miracle cure comes along.

Plus bed blocking, as they are unable to return to their house, due to the inability to move, let people die a dignified death, not artificially pump them full of drugs, to maintain a non life..

He didn't say elderly people who are in hospital 'terminally ill' though did he? He said, 'elderly people who've had their lives'.

But that's what I meant. Beyond hope of a cure.

I know, it's a poster, being pedantic for their own reasons, but having no measure of the issue. Blas. Why say that to disagree, when in reality you do agree?

 

[Blasphemous]

He didn't say elderly people who are in hospital 'terminally ill' though did he? He said, 'elderly people who've had their lives'.

But that's what I meant. Beyond hope of a cure.

I know, it's a poster, being pedantic for their own reasons, but having no measure of the issue. Blas. Why say that to disagree, when in reality you do agree?

WHERE did I write that I agree and/or disagree with ANYTHING joe wrote? Are you seriously stating that you find no ambiguity with the comment:

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

 

[Nige F]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

I agree with Joe for once.

Elderly people in hospital, that are terminally ill, they know it, the Doctors know it. But the Doctors duty is to support life. Which they know is impossible. So to sustain life, when the patient wants out, surely is wrong.

Waste of money, and time. If someone is dying, let them die, not use machines to let them live. In the hope some miracle cure comes along.

Plus bed blocking, as they are unable to return to their house, due to the inability to move, let people die a dignified death, not artificially pump them full of drugs, to maintain a non life..

He didn't say elderly people who are in hospital 'terminally ill' though did he? He said, 'elderly people who've had their lives'.

But that's what I meant. Beyond hope of a cure.

I know, it's a poster, being pedantic for their own reasons, but having no measure of the issue. Blas. Why say that to disagree, when in reality you do agree?

well i like to agree - but I also like to disagree . Which is better ? ........There`s only one way to find out

 

[joe-90]

Yes. Enough dihydrocodiene to despatch me 10 times over.

Who's going to administer it though mate? If you're 'terminally ill' it's possible you'd have lost the physical and/or mental ability to carry out such a task. And if a family and/or friend had the courage and compassion to carry out that final act they'd be liable to prosecution. In this country they'd probably get a longer sentence than a rapist!

I made a living will saying that I don't wish to be kept alive. I have a system with the GF whereby if I am in the state I don't want to be in she will stick big red crosses around the place. Somewhere in my head I'll know what I then have to do. If it happened to her - I'd help her go and sod the consequences.

 

[Blasphemous]

Yes. Enough dihydrocodiene to despatch me 10 times over.

Who's going to administer it though mate? If you're 'terminally ill' it's possible you'd have lost the physical and/or mental ability to carry out such a task. And if a family and/or friend had the courage and compassion to carry out that final act they'd be liable to prosecution. In this country they'd probably get a longer sentence than a rapist!

I made a living will saying that I don't wish to be kept alive. I have a system with the GF whereby if I am in the state I don't want to be in she will stick big red crosses around the place. Somewhere in my head I'll know what I then have to do. If it happened to her - I'd help her go and s** the consequences.

Well here's hoping it never gets that bad and it's not for a very long time to come mate.

 

[Donkmeister]

My dad always used to say that when it was his time he'd buy a Ferrari and drive it off a cliff... you don't understand this sort of statement (or rather shouldn't understand) when you're a kid. But, after you've seen a few people spend the last days or weeks of their life in a drug-induced coma then you start to appreciate the view, even if you don't agree with it.

The problem with having an exit plan is you can't always account for your state of mind in the years to come. There are plenty of prescription drugs that can lead to suicidal thoughts as a side effect. What if you're on medication for a recoverable injury and end up euthanasing yourself out of a happy and full life?